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Main speaker size: Meridian would normally treat 5200s as "large" speakers. A 5200C would normally be treated as "small" to force it to do less work. This is critical given that a centre speaker typically handles 70% of the front duties. The main point here was that you shouldn't be afraid to set a physically big speaker to "small" and use the processor's crossover to re-direct the lowest bass to a sub. Yes, I have my fronts - larger than 5200's - set to small. With a crossover not set too low they get a lot of "middle-bass" to play anyway. But since Meridian don't think per-speaker crossovers are a good idea all speakers has to be able to handle the delivered bass. Bass *is* left/right directional due to time differences in the wavefronts hitting the ears. There was some discussion that I missed a bit of where Des said that M usually recommends to its dealers to use chained mono subs rather than stereo left/right subs, but I can't remember the reason why. It might have been because Meridian processors are restricted to eight output channels and that, if you have stereo subs, you can't have a 7.2 setup, only 5.2. Can anyone help me out here? I certainly intend to try a 5.2 setup at some point.  I had a couple of years worth of discussion regarding subs - through John Kotches' Q&A session - with Meridian... I wanted the possibility of the same signal sent to miltiple subs, for instance a 5.3 setup with mixed analogue and digital subs, but Meridian didn't like the concept of sending the same signal to several subs. And now they're recommending chaining mono subs - the solution I had to use (a center/back mono config with the two Velodynes chained as a center sub)...? 
HD621, G98DH, G68ADV, Bc Acoustiqe ACT A3, 5200C DSP33, NuForce Reference 9 monoblocks, 2x SB3's, Velodyne DD-15 & DD-12 Subwoofers and a Meridian sub.
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Great thread. Thank you. 
Best regards, Jerry Main System: 861v6, DSP8000s in corners, DSP7000s Center and Sides, 1-9 humans.
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Main speaker size: Meridian would normally treat 5200s as "large" speakers. A 5200C would normally be treated as "small" to force it to do less work. This is critical given that a centre speaker typically handles 70% of the front duties. The main point here was that you shouldn't be afraid to set a physically big speaker to "small" and use the processor's crossover to re-direct the lowest bass to a sub. I am reading this thread and I want to know because I should set as "small" speakers as dsp5200 or dsp5500. I know that they treat very well the lowest bass. What's the motive/s? Why don't we complete the job dearly developed by VK with the best configuration for 2-channel movie & music? this can be a valid help for the beginners. I hope in the help of some experienced. Umberto
Setup I: DSP7200se, DSP7200HCse, DSP5500, DSW, 808.6, 861v8, G91DH, HD621, Oppo 103D XBOX360, AMX Christie HD6K-M, mySky Setup II: DSP5000, iMac, Cambridge Audio DacMagic
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President of the Imperial Galactic Government
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I believe the argument is basically if your mains (or sub) are as good or better at bass than your center let them take the bass load.
I'd say in your setup (in your signature) you definitely want center set small.
- Fiddler (IMHO)
If you think listening to music is fun, try learning an instrument. HT: G61RSL, 4x5K, 5.5KHC, 2xSC6000, Transporter, HD621, Philips BDP7501 4K, Tivo, 65" LG OLED 4K C6 Computer: Foobar2000, 5K, Mojo, HiFiMan HE1000 V2
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I have now raised the crossover of my DSP5200HC to 100Hz. Every other speaker is set to large. It will split the center bass with the front 8k's. LFE is split among all "large" speakers (6).
I only had a SW1600 with this 7.0 setup so I removed it since the total LFE output is much greater from all speakers combined than from a single sub and they integrate better with the room since they are spread out.
DSP8000SE, DSP7200SEHC, DSP5200SE sides, DSP7200SE rears, 861v8, 210, Sim2 Ultranero 4, Stewart Cinecurve 2.35:1, XEIT CM-5E Anamorphic lens, Dune HD Duo Cinema 8K and Wireworld Platinum 48G HDMI -> UHD722 -> Shunyata Omega Ethernet. Shunyata/Furutech power-cables/filters. SR Master Fuse@861v8. Uptone Etherregen with 10MHz OCXO clock.
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