Originally Posted by George Mills
Great review. Didn't have time to read the whole thing in detail.

But one thing that immediately caught my eye was the at length discussion of apodizing filter and how it helps restore problems from ORIGINAL A/D conversion.

So why is it that in the current context of discussion to date that the apodzing fileter is only applied if Meridian applies upsampling?

Am I missing something, did John Atkinson miss something (doubtful I know)?

The discussion of eliminating artifacts from the original A/D conversion is not a function of apodising filters per se, but rather a function of the specific filter parameters chosen. Peter Craven, when he originally proposed minimum phase filters, also proposed that the filter should roll off very steeply after 20 khz, more steeply even than the usual filters applied at the A/D and D/A conversion. That way, any ringing from the A/D conversion process would be filtered out, albeit at the expense of considerable post-ringing and phase shift from the apodising filter itself - which shows up in JA's measurements.

By contrast, the Ayre white paper I've mentioned frequently before claims that their implementation sounds better with quite gentle filter slopes, which will obviously allow more ringing from A/D conversion to get through, as well as more aliasing distortion, but will create much less post-ringing from the minimum phase filter. That's a pretty interesting disagreement between the ears of two of the best digital audio designers in the business, and JA's evaluation of the new Ayre MP filter will bear watching.

BTW, you must upsample to do apodising, or any digital anti-aliasing filtering, because the filter knee is so close to the Nyquist frequency. Whether you speak of the filtering being applied after upsampling, or as part of the upsampling process, is really a matter of semantics. From the perspective of upsampling the original digital signal, you must upsample in order to filter, and you must filter if you upsample.




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