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Working on the ultimate question
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OK, i guess some of these are repeats, but here goes:
1. HDMI solution (becomes moot if something IS announced at CES) 2. Ability to get discreet 7.1 into 861/G68 3. Could we get a 2-way remote that can display processor status (input, volume, DSP, etc.) 4. Integration of Sooloos - 800 series, G series 5. Same question for Bluray - 800 series, G series 6. Upgrade to 861 - mainly apodizing filter
Thx as always John (and Bob).
My Kit: 861v8+ID41, 800v4, UHD722, MD600, MS600, MS200, Oppo BDP-203, Genesis 201, Genesis 350 SE, Genesis S4-8 Sub, BG 520i, VTL MB450 II, Krell Showcase 7, Genesis 928 Subs, Danley DTS10 sub, SVS Ultra 16 subs.
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Can we re-stress our interest in another HH day - perhaps with the emphasis on getting the most out of our current systems if new products / direction is not available for a public showing - we could always have another one for that  ... & I presume getting the best from MRC & understanding the pros & cons of upsampling/apodising will not change with coming new products. Also for someone looking to take the next step into M processing it would be nice to know: a) if future processors will have the functionality of the new magic box built in or is it intended to always be the case to need two boxes to get HDMI audio in - I'm guessing no comment to this. & b) is it planned that future processors will retain the standard DSP outputs as well as presumably incorporating speakerlink and will they be able to use a combination of both or is it more likely that the current speakerlink converter will be always be necessary when using a combination of old and new products. (hopefully will get an answer to this one!) Cheers Simon
Main: MS600, G61R, DSP3100Vx3, DSP33x2, SW1600, Samsung 65JS9500 TV, Sony X800, Wireworld Star*light video cabling, Isotek Vision, Isotek Elite/Prem mains cabling. Office: Roon ROCK on NUC7i5, Allo USBridge + iFi PSU, Prime Amp/PSU, Fostex TH900. On the Go: Surface Pro, Explorer2, Sennheiser Momentum M2 Smyth Realiser2 on pre-order :-)
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1)Apodizing filters also on hires material/sources 2)Apodizing filter upgrade on 8k >> why not FULLY(hardware) upgrade-the OWNER have to DECIDE if its to expensive or not(not Mr. Stuart-sorry) 3)Future of 800 - Big money spend and now ???-no second drive-HMDI-no future.... 4)Support of DVD-A ? 5)Wireless DSP speakers INDEPENDENT of server solutions 6)FAQ for DSP speaker setup with PRACTICAL explainations like axis,tilt .... 7)Why now CD as the carrier-- why not DVD-A or DVD_V >> booth have bettert specs and the customer ALLREADY bought the Equipment > Regarding the thread "statement of Bob Stuart for AES" >> Clear statement from Mr. Stuart is necassary Can we have the statement-script to understand? 8)Update for roomcorrection-> no full automatic setup ( option for edit LATER manually if still needet) 9)861 or 800 ---USB input-("lower " modell have it.......) 10)WISH--HIRES server for Audio-maybe later also video 11)Suggestion If M dont want to publish for competition reasons- looking at the digital path from the source to the speaker in a WHOLE digital way (like800/861/8k) on which state the dejitter,upsampling,dithering,apodizing prozesses are optimally Why M dont make a SW routine/programm that that decision is done either automatic or load specific MFU files for a chain like that. So we are customers not in heaven,but we are know that we are using the M Equipment at best as possible and M dont publish "secrets" to their competitors. Thanks for your motivation to move things and have only work and sometimes positive feedback THANKS JOHN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Robert
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Can we please have an update from M re. using two subs, independent of each other. ie. separate sides of the room in a 7.2 set-up.
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Hi John, And thank you in advance for the Sisyphe work! Here we go again : - 7.2 request approval , more popular than usually objected I believe. - More crossover slopes for .1 currently liited to 24dB. - 800 future concern also. - I won't really go in the 800 HD upgrade solution query offense, but if we can't get a B drive, may we get a B slot wireless HD solution in case? Like a Soloos HDAV client module in a 5"1/4 form factor.  Best j
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Thanks for this again John: My Question:
Q1: Will there be an update for the Configuration Program to support 7.2 from the 861?
PerS
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Pers: I can tell you that until M has implemented > 8 channels support you can't get 7.2. 9 > 8 
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(Spawned from mixing 18/44 and 24/96 speakers)
Which DSP speakers are production capable of upsampling from lower sample rates to 88.2 or 96?
This could lead into questions about apodizing filter upgrades but I respect the "future products" caveat.
Last edited by gianni; 2008-12-19 11:17. Reason: added apodizing comment
In the spirit of Spinaltap, I would like to confirm that I am not involved in the corrupt theft of a global sport.
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Hi John
Thanks to your hard work at CEDIA (and Bob's too) we were promised a standby indicator for the 808.2. Is there any date for this please?
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3. Could we get a 2-way remote that can display processor status (input, volume, DSP, etc.) Allready possible via RS-232, although the communication protocol seems a bit 'strange'
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One very important question:
Existing DAB stations use the MP2 codec. It's old technology and is inefficient. In February 2007, DAB+ was released, based on the AAC+ codec which is approximately 2x more efficient than MP2. Note that this date is *before* the F80 release. As things stand and according to that wonderful source of sometimes accurate information - Wikipedia - Italy, Malta, Switzerland have started transmitting DAB+ stations. Hungary is due to launch DAB+ stations in 2008 and Australia and Germany are planning to launch DAB+ in 2009. The radio industry in the UK is expecting DAB+ stations to launch between 2010 - 2013, and podcast services using the DAB+ format will be launched in the UK in 2009.
So... Assuming that the F80 does not support the DAB+ (there is no DAB+ logo anywhere that I can see), will the F80 be upgradable and will this be a firmware or hardware upgrade? How much will it cost? The F80 is a portable - take it on holiday - unit and DAB+ is here now.
I am likely to make another F80 purchase, but I will not be buying another F80 until this is clarified.
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And while they are at the F80 upgrade game, why not introduce a supercharged version with appodizing filters (and greater processing MIPS?)
And how about a special edition in blue, not to reflect the world economy but able to play Bluray 3.0 protocol?
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