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Working on the ultimate question
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Ok so I have it working! Converted a few of my CD's to lossless FLAC and although it sounds OK its not as good as my 598...or my Pioneer 51fd Bluray player playing back CD's. So far I sense a tad less dynamics and slightly smaller sound stage.

So my question is what should I be using for bit rate in my FLAC settings? Currently set to 768kbit! I am using EAC right now. I still think it is pretty cool and the sound is still very smooth its just lacking that little bit of WOW to it. You know what I mean?

May be I should try WAV and see if i can hear a difference.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Ron


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WAV and FLAC should sound the same.

dBpoweramp is 10x easier than EAC to use and just as good. It also has better tagging (reference version).

Most FLAC encoders have a scale of 1 to 10 and I think the default is 7 or 8. Setting higher just puts more work on the encoder and decoder and takes longer and gets diminishing returns for the amount of work. I just leave it at the default of 7 or 8.

Try testing by ripping a DTS track and play it to verify you have everything setup correctly.


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Hi George,

I retract my statement! It sounds great. Just when I started listening to it for the first time my fire alarm went off in my house. My wife was broiling something and it set off the alarms. I had to hush the alarms and my ears were next to the loud alarm. It clearly compromised my hearing for a few. After dinner I listened to Kenny Neil again and it sounded wonderful! I am happy! My Squeezebox 3 is connected to a 518 and then my 568.2. Sweet! So much for alarms going off in my ears! Doh!

Ron


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Still always worth a DTS sound check. It's easy.



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Why the DTS track? You mean DTS from CD and to what? FLAC?


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Yes DTS CD.

Yes test your exact "CD Work flow" treat it like it was a new CD and how you would handle a CD.

If you use FLAC for CD use FLAC for the test.


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Now I just need to find a DTS CD. I only have a couple.


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Hi George,

DTS works perfectly! I forgot how good these can sound. Diana Krall! Nice!

Now I just need to keep converting CD's until I am finished. This is going to take a while.


Ron


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FYI, some people are saying the latest beta release of SqueezeCenter (configured correctly) will provide improved sound. This is reported here: http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=64267.0

Personally, I have not been able to tell a difference. It may be snakeoil, but at least it's FREE snakeoil.


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People have been saying this version sounds better than that for years but most will agree it's more in peoples heads.


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Hey George,

7.4 does sound better decoding to PCM in the PC. I never tried this with 7.3 though. It sounds a little more crisp like maybe better highs. 7.4 doesn't seem as sluggish as 7.3 while navigating. Who knows maybe it's my imagination. It is getting late.

Edit: No I am sure of it...decoding FLAC to PCM in the PC does sound better! More air up top and I swear tighter bass. Over all more crisp sounding. Like I said I never tried this with 7.3 so decoding in the PC may have always been the better setup.

Ron

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Hi Ron

Glad you are enjoying your SB3. If you haven't already got one, I would strongly recommend you get a Controller unit. Navigation is 10x faster than with the standard SB remote and the user interface is much more slicker with album art etc.

Cliff


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