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Vogon Civil Servant
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Originally Posted by VirusKiller
At HH1, Bob spoke of low frequency "informational cues" that are directional (and therefore 7x DSP8000 would be best in a multi-channel setup). I seem to recall (or imagine) that Bob dismissed the suggestion that sub-80Hz was not localizable.
That's exactly what Bob & Rhonda said on the Hitchhiker Day and also on several times in the past eight years. Essentially not that Subs are "bad" but that Large Speakers in each location sounded better for Multichannel recordings

Several years back, I also read a different paper which essentially said that as much as we HEAR Low Frequency Sounds, our Bodies SENSE or FEEL those LF Sounds and as a result we can sense where they are coming from. This had to do with the obvious amount of energy involved in LF. This SENSE seems to me to correspond with Bob & Rhonda's comments on "Informational Cues"

So much for the theory. What about the Practice?? About eight years ago, I switched to using large speakers in a 5.1 and then 5.0 arrangement. This later became 7.0 and 7.1. Having experimented with various Subs; Sub Locations; Crossover Points; Use of Two Subs etc. I quite quickly came to realise that (for my system in my room) the use of Large speakers at each location resulted in much better Performance with Movie DVD's and DVD-A's.

Long story short, Large Speakers at each location is not the only answer but it was certainly the most pleasing answer for me



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Great Green Arkleseizure
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I think we need to define "LF cues. At what frequencies do LF cues occur: below 80Hz, below 63Hz, below 40 Hz?


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President of the Imperial Galactic Government
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Originally Posted by Frank
I think we need to define "LF cues. At what frequencies do LF cues occur: below 80Hz, below 63Hz, below 40 Hz?

All the above.


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Senior Shouting Officer
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George +1 to what you and everyone has said. My experience is that bass is indeed directional so the more you can get to the actual point sources the better.


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Jerry
Main System: 861v6, DSP8000s in corners, DSP7000s Center and Sides, 1-9 humans.
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