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Now, how are we going to get an extra pair of DSP8000s up there without killing ourselves in the process?

sky hooks and glass nails possibly

I reported on this in discussions about whether Meridian top products are stale. Meridian just do not seem to be introducing the codecs to their processors even though they themselves had experimented with additional height speakers years ago. And Yamaha fitted such processing years if not decades ago. So the dedicated Dolby solution is a natural development.

Onkyo have a processor with PLIIz due out late Spring.

Steady! Dolby effectively pay Meridian's DSP team's salaries due to all of the consultancy fees that the team brings in. Don't bank on Meridian not "beating" Onkyo.

Also worth saying that the 861 code (or similar) may even form some of the basis of PLIIz...

Dolby come a "little" late ;-))

height channels DVD allready available from

MDG
http://www.mdg.de/frame2e.htm

and

chesky
http://www.chesky.com

The height channels are allready includet in M controller as 2+2+2 format on DVD_A

and thats NOT lossy Dolby format - its hires


Robert

Yes, you are quite right. Its just that when wondering whether to go through all the hassle of changing over to a Meridian system (lots of speakers to replace etc.) Meridian processors and players seem way behind. No doubt this is partly why you had to get PS3, Oppo, Clux etc. rather than Meridian gear?

But with due respect given to the laudable efforts of MDG and Chesky, 99.9999% of the world doesn't care. A Dolby feature will get noticed though and it will synthesize height channels from all available 5.1 material. Incidentally, Yamaha have been synthesizing height channels for a decade and I had a "5.2.1" setup with my Yamaha A2.

Agree with VK, implementation is the key. Recently I borrowed an Onkyo N906 Receiver and used it just as a processor into my amps, compared it against my 568.2

BlueRayFilm -> Onkyo (in DTS)
BlueRayFilm -> Onkyo (in DTS-MA)

DTS-MA better

BlueRayFilm -> Onkyo (in DTS-MA)
BlueRayFilm -> Meridian 568.2 (in DTS)

To everyone who listened we all (inc my wife!) preferred the Meridian, whether this is down to the implementation of the codec or the better DACs/analogue stage in the Meridian, I don't know, but the Meridian was certainly more realistic

Mr Perceptive

And Joe Sixpack will have all those speakers in Left/right piles on the carpet as soon as Matsui release their real world offering to the waiting masses.
"The Missus dont like wires", "So I just tidy it up here, It sounds great".

Enjoy, Chris

I spoke with M about height speakers years ago and they said it was a possibility and recommended I run wires for them, and I am glad I did. At the time I figured Id do DSP33s.

I agree with Mr Perceptive and his findings. I just disconnected my 568MM and connected a yamaha rxv 661 just to hear how the advanced audio codecs would sound via HDMI. I only used the processor of the yamaha rxv 661 and my eathquake cine nova 5 channel.

I dont have all of the auiophile termonology down yet, but could hear the difference of the HDMI versus the SPDIF. I formerly had the Yamaha RXV1 flagship receiver from 2001, which had the front presence speaker option. As a matter of fact the front presence speakers are still mounted in my ceiling. So I am happy with the Dolby PLIIZ with the hope I will be able to use those B&W speakers in my ceiling once again.

To make a long story short, I reconnected my Meridian 568mm and immediately I could tell that the Meridian was superior in quality, that was no surprise. The difference I heard thru the HDMI connection was a differnce but not a better difference as far quality of sound. I heard the seperation, the various ambient nuances of the HDMI but it was not a greater quality. I realize that the rxv 661 was a lower end of the yamaha, but I had the high end rxv1 and left it for the Meridian 568MM back in 2005.

Hooray for PLIIz and for front presence channels!

Samuel