Thanks John, How well I know about the race to the bottom. I dread the bill that I just looked at for my 861/800 DVD-Audio upgrade, money wasted!!!! I got hooked at that Cedia red carpet invite show and took the bait hook line and sinker. I was sitting right next to you that Sunday in the Meridian booth. My screen name has changed but if I were to tell you you would remember me. You helped me out with a Hi-Rez disk purchase once too.Thanks I will give M a call,I am still on the hook. You ever seen a Sail fish on the hook!!!!! that's me, I can't shake it M is still reelin' me in :>) I'm fussin' but wow do I love there product.
Thanks Greg

861v8, 808v6, 800v3 w/LPSU, HD621, MD600, DSP8000.2USE, DSP7200.2HCUSE, DSP7000 (rear)w/2 Revivers, DSP3300 (sides elevated), Seaton Submersive HP Subwoofer, Sim2 3000e, Oppo BDP-103, Stewart Film Screen JK Gray Hawk Grand Cinema R/S 115"Diag w/masking.