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Interesting comments.
To be clear, I am looking at a used 808i not a new one for $15,995 (US Dollars). The net increase in spent dollars after selling my G08 would be in the $5,000 range.
I probably listen though my RSA Apache headphone amplifier equally to what I listen through the DSP 5200s so I was also considering the best upgrade for the value. The other consideration I had for the 808i is I could use it to connect my analog set up through it, which today is connected through another system that doubles as a basic home theater.
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For that price, I think you are doing an excellent find!
But do audition it.
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My concern in your post is that you have not got a guarantee to $$$$ upgrade the 808i to 808.2. I would try get hold of M USA/HQ on this one, because it doesn't sound like a statement in the spirit of M. Well, I emailed Meridian UK recently and they completely denied the 808.2 even existed or that there were plans for it! 
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Well they showed it on CEDIA'07. I think it's important who you talk to at Meridian. It seems their information channels are not always up to date on events 
Last edited by crion; 2007-12-10 11:46.
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Well, I emailed Meridian UK recently and they completely denied the 808.2 even existed or that there were plans for it! I suspect the person who replied didn't know or wasn't sure of the public status of the information and was simply playing safe. The information flow does leave a lot to be desired though. I would prefer not to get my information 3rd hand or having to pick apart the latest brochures.
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Well they showed it on CEDIA'07. I think it's important who you talk to at Meridian. It seems their information channels are not always up to date on events So does anyone know when it will be out? (808.2)
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This is a question I would like to know as well... I placed order since early October and so far, no news at all... Somehow I heard the 808.2 will have slot-in mechanism instead of tray loading, but my dealer told me it should still be tray loading  Guess only when it's out, the truth will be revealed.. I do hope they will change the loading mechanism because the current tray loading is simply.. not elegant..
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It would be interesting if the drive does change to a slot loader whether true DVD-A will be supported rather than the DVD-V part. There is some belief that the slot loader was the inhibiting factor for DVD-A not being supported on the G95 [and F80 although the cited reason for DVD-A (like HDMI) not being on the F80 was product positioning within the whole Meridian lineup so a marketing rather than technical limitation].
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It would be interesting if the drive does change to a slot loader whether true DVD-A will be supported rather than the DVD-V part. There is some belief that the slot loader was the inhibiting factor for DVD-A not being supported on the G95 [and F80 although the cited reason for DVD-A (like HDMI) not being on the F80 was product positioning within the whole Meridian lineup so a marketing rather than technical limitation]. I'd be surprised if the slot loader was the problem. DVD-A decoding happens in the MPEG chip. Interestingly, the G91 replacement, the G92, is not described as a DVD Audio player...
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They are clearly dropping DVD-A. Dolby TrueHD will probably be the "replacement" further on.
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I'd be surprised if the slot loader was the problem. DVD-A decoding happens in the MPEG chip. Are you sure that the DVD-A encryption/watermark is not handled at the drive level?
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Are you sure that the DVD-A encryption/watermark is not handled at the drive level? I could be wrong, but my understanding is that the drive is only about getting bits off of the disc; the decoder takes over from there. I believe that Meridian's choice of MPEG chip (C-Cube Ziva) was down to that manufacturer's commitment to DVD-A. The 596 and early 800 (I think) used the Ziva 3. Their DVD-A players use the Ziva 5 which was the first MPEG decoder with DVD-A support.
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