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I have a G61, very happy with it, also happy with my 5500 24/96. I recently have the opportunity to upgrade to the DSP6000 but we believe these are the 18bit version.
Clearly I can't rely on AI, but Gemini is telling me that for numerous reasons, the 18 bit 6000 will be better than the 24/96 5500. I'm very happy with the realism, resolution, etc. of the 5500's but if anyone thinks the 18 bit 6000s are a better choice, I'm open minded.
And I run into that can't really use the 24/96 if they are 18bit because if any speaker in the chain is not 24.96 it won't put out HS.
Can anyone chime in on this?
Thanks
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I have used a pair of 18bit 5500 for a long time and I really enjoyed them. Bought a pair of ATC scm20asl on the side but sold those.
The Meridians sounded just so much more juicy but with insight. I have compared a pair of DSP5000 24/96 with a pair of DSP5000 18bit and found the difference to be smaller than I expected.
I went from DSP7200SE to 8000SE and found the difference significant.
The 7200SE is much more refined speaker than the 5500, but the configuration is similar. So I think that the configuration of the speaker matters more than the resolution of the DAC. The DSP6000 is an impulse corrected (drivers on both sides of the enclosure) system with a sealed box. I suspect it will load room modes more evenly and has faster, more realistic bass. So in my opinion, in this case AI may have been right.
Main: DSP8000SE< 218 < Farad Super3 TMCB < PS Audio P10. Room correction: Focus Fidelity. Second: Fostex Fe206NV2 < Audio innovations 500 valve amp < Wiim Pro + Study: DSP33 < Reviver < MS200 Server: ROCK + Tidal on NUC, fiber on 2x cisco 2960, HD-Plex LPS. Gone: DSP7200SEu, DSW, DSP5500mkI & DSP5000mkI, 508.20, 210
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You might also consider age of tweeter fluid and capacitors. If these are old, the 6Ks might not sound their best, factor that in to any negotiations.
I recall @VirusKiller having great things to say about 18 bit versions of something, I don't recall which speakers. As always, let your ears decide.
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Good addition, I actually replaced the tweeters of my DSP5500 once.
Main: DSP8000SE< 218 < Farad Super3 TMCB < PS Audio P10. Room correction: Focus Fidelity. Second: Fostex Fe206NV2 < Audio innovations 500 valve amp < Wiim Pro + Study: DSP33 < Reviver < MS200 Server: ROCK + Tidal on NUC, fiber on 2x cisco 2960, HD-Plex LPS. Gone: DSP7200SEu, DSW, DSP5500mkI & DSP5000mkI, 508.20, 210
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I've done this exact upgrade- 24/96 5500s to 18-bit 6000s, and I would do again without hesitation.
There is a difference between 18-bit vs. 24/96, but it is more subtle. As in your case, I had to run my 24/96 center and 24/96 surrounds in 18-bit mode, but the overall change was worth it. To me the 6000s are much more refined, with better imaging, precision and much tighter bass. Once I experienced the 6000s, there was no going back and I eventually upgraded to 24/96 6000s and all was 24/96 again.
Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss more.
Theater: 861v4_LPS, 818v3, HD621, Oppo 203, Lumagen Pro, DSP8000SE, DSP5500C, SW1600x2, DSP5500, Epson 6040UB, PS4 Living room: 861v4_LPS, HD621, DSP8000SE, DSP5200C, Oppo 203, Lumagen 2143, 818v3, Sooloos/MC600 Bluesound Node Bedroom: M80 office: G68D, DSP6000 Garage: DSP5000 Storage: M33s, DSP33s, DSP5k, 501, 518, M1500, G98DH, SW1600
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Glad to hear you went through exact same thing. I'm just scared because it's a great deal, and it's not that I'm unhappy with my 5500. I can also definitely hear a difference in placement, tone, "realism", air when turning HS on or off on my 5500s when listening to 24/96 classical pieces. So I just wanted to make sure I wasn't downgrading.
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If anyone else runs into this, just make sure the tweeters are refurbished with ferrofluid and it's a no-brainer as was stated. I couldn't be happier.
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