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Yes it seems I did but I was not trying to say the person didn’t know what he was doing ( with calibration). I’m sure he does and he doesn’t have to have anyone else touch his system or pay anyone to do it - his choice and that’s fine But IMO for anyone to claim they are “just as good” at something as a highly trained and very well experienced professional who has an incredible resume and is highly sort after even by Trinnov themselves ( to train their own people) is arrogant at best.
He may get his system to sound very good and it may be ( it may even be 80-90% of what Adam does) but I feel like Adam could still improve upon it. That is my opinion and not everyone is going to agree with that.
I know sound is very much subjective ( besides all the measurements etc being correct). Again he may like what he has done to his own system and that is just fine - he obviously doesn’t want to spend any extra money to have someone else calibrate it.
On the video side I use a very well known calibrator ( to do my projector) who travels all around the USA and he has told me there are people all the time who swear they know what they are doing and claim to do a great job and when any of them decide to have him come calibrate they realize maybe they didn’t know as much as they thought they did and His calibration is better than what they did (in some cases its because of the equipment he uses which is very expensive).
You are correct my money, my choice but I will say this - I have owned M gear for well over 20 years and my system has never sounded this good.
I’m not trying to put in an advertisement for Adam but again if anyone is going to spend the money for a Trinnov and is not going to put in the time and effort to learn how to calibrate it themselves they should consider having a professional do it to get the very best out of it.
My gear: Trinnov CI, 271, 8000.1(SEs), 7200.1 HC (SE), 320s, 3200s, Seaton F18 subs, MS200 (2nd zone), 218, 210. Other: JVC RS-4100 projector, Lumagen Pro Radiance, Panamorph DCR anamorphic lens, Stewart G4 130 screen, Kaleidescape Strato K, Rvolution 4K player and Zapitti NAS, Oppo BDP-203,Roon Nucleus
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There is an excellent article in this month’s Trinnov newsletter that just came out entitled “ Calibration is a Conversation, Not a Preset”. It states in part how subjective sound is and how vital an experienced calibrator can be along with all the things involved besides just measurements in getting great sound. It states much better than I did in my post on avsforum what I was trying to say. Sorry not sure how to include a link to the article but it is a very good read.
My gear: Trinnov CI, 271, 8000.1(SEs), 7200.1 HC (SE), 320s, 3200s, Seaton F18 subs, MS200 (2nd zone), 218, 210. Other: JVC RS-4100 projector, Lumagen Pro Radiance, Panamorph DCR anamorphic lens, Stewart G4 130 screen, Kaleidescape Strato K, Rvolution 4K player and Zapitti NAS, Oppo BDP-203,Roon Nucleus
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Not an Actor, nor married to Jamie-Lee Curtis.
#1: DSP5200SE|DSW.2|218|210|506.2|504 #2: Prime/PSU|SOtM sMS-200 Mini NEO SE|Focal Stellia #3: Other stuff
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FYI, it's likely that 2 x front Subs Trinnov Waveforming is on the imminent horizon.
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It's confirmed that the latest two front Subwoofer WaveForming option will be enabled in the forthcoming Altitude CI 2.2 (and Altitude 16/32 4.4.5) update - plus new Target Curve/Delay Adjustments, and new Bass Management alignment options.
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There is a webinar on this subject September 7th.
www.cmbintegrations.comOne step from the Presidency #1 Trinnov Altitude 32-8-16, 271, 8000XE, 7200SEHC, 7200.2, Seaton F18, JL Fathom F113, Revel w990's, Kef R7, ATI 528 Amp, JVC RS4100K, SI screen. Roon Nucleus+, Eno AG, Eno M link, 218. #2 Mark Levinson No5105, Ayre VX8 and CX8, Vandersteen Treo CT, Preamp varies. #3 Meridian Ellipse
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To watch the Trinnov webinar... On a tablet, ensure you have first downloaded Google Drive. Then, in Google web browser, enter https://bit.ly/4A2qiHaThis will subsequently launch Google Drive and the recorded webinar will start playing.
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If you're against home-theatre, and just want the ultimate stereo system, I invite you to watch this detailed/technical review of a Trinnov Altitude CI in a 2.6 stereo configuration - using the full standard 8 channel license - with 6 Perlisten Subwoofers in a Waveforming set-up. For the rest of us on here, just add a Meridian 271. For me, if my speakers were passive, I would include a dCS MCD 16 Digital Amplifier in the system, that readily connects to an Altitude CI via AES/EBU.
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The sort of system described above is a real dream but financially it's beyond my current reach unfortunately.
Cinema: Meridian 271, 3 x DSP640 (behind screen), 4 x DSP320 (in-ceiling), 4 x DSP3100 (surrounds), 2 x AC12 (interface). 2 x Perlisten D12s subs, Lyngdorf MP40 processor. DT 145" 2.35 AT screen. Sony VW870 projector & S-T lens, Lumagen Radiance Pro. Lounge: Roon, NUC, Kef LS50 Wireless + 2 x REL Gibraltar-2 subs
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The reviewer does observe that by using cheaper, or fewer subwoofers, in a small room can be equally impressive.
Usefully, if you watch the review via the YouTube app, by scrolling down, you can read the review transcript for later consumption.
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