3) I just bought the one on Audiogon for $4450 brand new. The guy hadn't even had it delivered to him from his dealer before deciding to move up to an 861 instead. It arrived Thursday and I'm thrilled with my purchase - it sounds wonderful.

Keep looking, bargains come up on Audiogon from time to time.

Living room: DSP5000.3
WFH Office: M33
Bedroom: P200ZQ