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This post on the Roon forum stated Tidal’s position that at least existing MQA content would remain on the platform, so one would hope they’re not breaking that commitment.
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I too have noticed some albums on Tidal are no longer available in MQA.
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Are the albums which are no longer in MQA being replaced by hi-res FLAC, or just vanilla 16/44?
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The ones I went looking for went from MQA to 16/44.
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...the Roon forum stated Tidal’s position that at least existing MQA content would remain on the platform, so one would hope they’re not breaking that commitment. It should be said that it has been known for MQA content to disappear from Tidal in the past, which I never understood (and ultimately led to me leaving), however it does feel to me that their commitment is wavering. It saddens me to say this, but that's how it feels.
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My personal commitment to Tidal is largely based on a big proportion of the albums I listen to being available in MQA, usually in higher than CD resolution once unfolded. If that content were to devolve to mostly redbook res, I would probably move over to Qobuz or another provider if they were offering more of it in hi-res FLAC, etc…
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To my ears, non-MQA material sounded better on Qobuz than it did on Tidal and I ended up subscribing to both for a long time.
I then realised I was subscribed to at least four music services (Spotify, Apple Music, Qobuz and Tidal), so I cancelled Spotify and Tidal. That said, I may resubscribe to Spotify, depending on how Apple Music works out in the car.
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Chances are you get Amazon too!
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I've been wondering what to do about Tidal, as a lot of favourite classical recordings in MQA have defaulted to 16/44.1, as mentioned, but remain in 24/96 on Qobuz, so I don't think it can just be about licensing.
I still find Qobuz HiRes sounds a bit flat compared with MQA, but I also notice that I start to adjust and don't seem to mind it. I suspect the familiarity with the sound of standard PCM may have informed why some hated MQA.
However, plenty of new releases still come though in MQA, and the Warner and Sony MQA albums seem to remain, which is also puzzling.
The good thing about Qobuz Sublime+ is that the discounts on HiRes downloads are so great it almost pays for itself. Customer support is also excellent.
If Tidal does migrate all MQA to standard PCM, it loses its USP for me, and I may well let it go.
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I did wonder about this and we do subscribe to Amazon Prime, but I *think* their music service is another subscription on top of this.
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I still find Qobuz HiRes sounds a bit flat compared with MQA I also found I tended to prefer MQA over Qobuz HiRes on my Meridian setup (but preferred Qubuz when listening to the same format). The fact that so much of what I listened to disappeared (either entirely or in MQA form) from Tidal was really frustrating - and I don't want to pay money to people who frustrate me!
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When I look with Roon I see all (all I have checked) MQA files are still there. "Our commitment to open platforms for both artists and fans drives our continued adoption of the FLAC format. TIDAL has always prioritized and invested in superior audio quality to be the definitive music platform for fans who want extraordinary music experiences in high fidelity sound. Adding HiRes FLAC gives HiFi Plus subscribers best-in-class audio quality in a format that can more easily be delivered by artists. Enabling greater access for both artist and fans directly aligns with our purpose of empowering artists to run thriving businesses. As of now, we have no plans to deprecate MQA. TIDAL remains committed to providing our subscribers with exceptional audio quality and ensuring that they can experience music exactly as the artists intended. We value the feedback we receive from our artists and fan community and we are constantly iterating and improving our product taking into account their input.
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