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I admire your optimism, it might not be that easy. Do Meridian still have access to the original Sooloos program sources? Do they actually have any programmers that work for them who would be capable of understanding/modifying these sources?

On the other hand 5 days ago M posted their annual accounts to June 2019. They actually reported a small (£30K) net profit, a tad better than their £928K loss of the previous year. So you would have thought, if nothing else, they would be willing to use some of the kitty to pay one of the original programmerS (at Roon?) to make the necessary software change.

If the theory is right that Tidal changed their login process, I am surprised that they did so without the courtesy of informing their partners in advance, of which there must be many.


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Originally Posted by ncpl
I think Tidal recently changed the login process. Roon changed to deal with that.
I assume that HQ will have to modify Sooloos is a similar way.
I am waiting for a new display board for a G61 but Meridian have closed due to restrictions.

Could be a bit of a wait for a fix.

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Originally Posted by TartanB
If the theory is right that Tidal changed their login process, I am surprised that they did so without the courtesy of informing their partners in advance, of which there must be many.
Perhaps you could try re-running the Tidal log in process on Sooloos?


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Tidal may have informed M but without any action from M I fear for the worst! We now have 16 zones I our house without music (Tidal) making me forced to think of a new solution and guess what I am not thinking of Meridian.


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If we all put pressure on Tidal this may be the best way to get Meridian into action. After all Tidal stands to loose costumers as well.


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Originally Posted by Norway
After all Tidal stands to loose costumers as well.
Meridian Sooloos is insignificant to TIDAL. This has to go through Meridian for any resolution to happen. Not that we know what the problem actually is.


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I haven't had an issue accessing Tidal all through this period that the problem has been reported. I rebooted my QNAP a couple of days before the first post in this thread to fix a problem I had with Napster. Tidal has been solid for me pretty much the whole time I've had my Sooloos system. I do have the issue of long tracks from Tidal not playing on Sooloos and it is one of the reasons I keep Napster around.

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Originally Posted by RobP
There was mention further up the thread that a Core restart might trigger the issue.
Twas my guess/hypothesis.

I have not yet experienced the problem. My core has now been up-and-running for ~13 days and 13 hours.

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Originally Posted by TartanB
Do Meridian still have access to the original Sooloos program sources?
Of course. It is their IP. Why would they not.

Originally Posted by TartanB
Do they actually have any programmers that work for them who would be capable of understanding/modifying these sources?
No idea but probably yes.

Originally Posted by TartanB
....original programmerS (at Roon?) to make the necessary software change.
I doubt it but who knows. Roon will be busy with Roon stuff.

Originally Posted by TartanB
If the theory is right that Tidal changed their login process, I am surprised that they did so without the courtesy of informing their partners in advance, of which there must be many.
....too many wild assumptions here.

It's odd that some people are impacted and others not. Sounds bizarrely like another proper crisis doesn't it.


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Re ... it’s odd that some people are impacted and others not. Sounds bizarrely like another proper crisis doesn't it.

I did wonder if the type of subscription you have was perhaps relevant? I pay my £19.99 for the hi-fi/ masters, so I can listen to MQA. From my iPad app, the only Tidal options now displayed concern masters (but there is no content shown). Is there anybody on this site experiencing problems who have the non masters subscription?


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Originally Posted by ncpl
It's odd that some people are impacted and others not. Sounds bizarrely like another proper crisis doesn't it.
I suspect it only affects whoever restarted their core recently. In my case, it was a power outage last Monday. It was working great before, until - I assume - Sooloos tries to login to TIDAL again after the forced reboot and cannot because TIDAL changed meanwhile their protocol.

Or something like that.


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I do not think it was related to a core reboot. Mine was working fine previously, and stopped working abruptly without a core reboot. No power issues here (have a back-up generator that would flag a power outage).


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