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So, to really make the most out of Roon, one has to commit to a £20 per month/£240 per year Tidal subscription in addition to a minimum < £120 annual Roon subscription - or < £360 all in.

Even with a lifetime Roon membership, you are still implying that an ongoing Tidal subscription of £240 per year is what really makes Roon work.


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Originally Posted by spinaltap
So, to really make the most out of Roon, one has to commit to a £20 per month/£240 per year Tidal subscription in addition to a minimum < £120 annual Roon subscription - or < £360 all in.

Even with a lifetime Roon membership, you are still implying that an ongoing Tidal subscription of £240 per year is what really makes Roon work.
No. Roon facilitates this with my own library too. It's just more diverse the more diverse the source material, such as provided by Tidal and not just material within my own library.

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I don't know about the other solutions offered, but the best feature about Roon for me is that, assisted by, but not exclusively because of, its almost seamless integration with Tidal, I am enjoying a much more diverse selection of music than I previously listened to, other than on radio. This diversity is not me choosing other artists etc, but because Roon offers it to me based upon what it thinks I will like and not just a random selection.
IMHO, the value of Roon far outweighs its cost. Roon lifetime cost me £390 and Tidal Masters costs me ~£16/month. I also bought about £400 of dedicated new hardware, but could have got away with non dedicated setup on what I already had. That gave me 6 zones, but I only use 4 or 5 of them in reality.


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Agreed, not everything can be measured purely on cost. cool

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+1. Roon has alot going for it to justify the subscription cost. You install it and it just works.


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Best value for money I’ve ever had in hifi


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Exactly.


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Originally Posted by Longitude0
Tom,
That seems like a very compelling list of features and I have the highest regard for both your and Russ's views, judgement and expertise. I know you are both in favour of Roon but my interest and concern is whether AssetUpnp, not yet much developed, is beginning to eclipse it at much lower cost.
Would you be able to use AssetUpnp with your existing Sooloos equipment? Roon also supports Squeezebox hardware.

Do you have any pictures of the interface that we can use to compare AssetUpnp and Roon?

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Sonore do a UPnP bridge which enables a UPnP device to be seen in Roon.

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No - I only stumbled across AssetUpnp because SpinalTap mentioned it and when I had a quick look at the Illustrate site it seemed to offer many features like Sooloos (which I use) and Roon (of which I am very ignorant but note that many people whose views I respect do use).

Because I have never paid anything like as much as Roon’s price for a piece of software of any kind I have so far been highly resistant to trying Roon but thought I should ask the forum whether new things such as AssetUpnp are providing similar functionality at a much better price.

I would not want to pay $500 for functionality I could get, at least mostly, for a fraction of Roon’s price and find within a short time I had blundered as I did with TiVo and to some extent Sooloos. I thought Tivo was brilliant and Sooloos does all I want (well, with some updating) and both are now unsupported (forget Virgin’s Tivo - I can’t get cable even if I wanted it).

My question has led to stout (even defensive) support for Roon but little insight into AssetUpnp. I would like to thank all for the trouble taken over responses but it looks like I will have to research AssetUpnp myself and see how it compares with Sooloos, which is what I would like to find a successor for.

In this context, I am delighted with the work done by Koputai which shows that modest fiddling about can give my C10s life after Sooloos (especially if I overcome my lifetime reluctance to pay through the nose for software and buy Roon).


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I believe people feel strongly compelled to justify personal expenditure on an item in the face of more economic alternatives.


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Have a look at Squeezelite (on the streamer) LMS (on the NAS/Pi) and iPeng controller. IPeng is really very impressive in terms of feature list. LMS is also exceedingly able (upsampling etc.).

IPeng cost £9. The rest is free and may get you 97% of what you’re after.

Also RPi plus Allo Digione Sig plus good power supply would possibly more than hold its own with 818v3. SPDIF output so plug and play. A little fiddling required setting up.

Roon is fab and great for manufacturers, do I need synced endpoints, not really. Very convenient if you don’t fancy a little fiddle. SQ? I though SQ improved when I went RAAT, I’m now just double checking before cancelling Roon. More features than I need.

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Originally Posted by Ogri
Also RPi plus Allo Digione Sig plus good power supply would possibly more than hold its own with 818v3. SPDIF output so plug and play. A little fiddling required setting up.
Do you have anything to back up this statement?

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