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New speaker firmware to fix their faulty MQA implementation?
Such that I can use room correction, or other DSP, after the first unfold and still enjoy rendering by the speakers?

Other MQA licensees, such as with my iFi and Audioquest DACs, function properly in this regard, but not the 218, Explorer2 or SE speakers I own.

Will my other Meridian products ever become fully functional?


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Theater: 218, Allo Signature, miniDSP, HD621, C61R, DSP5200SEu, 420, 33, NHT subs
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New firmware for DSP speakers? Is it only for SE speakers or other models as well?


Main: Marantz Cinema 50, Meridian 271, DSP7200.2, DSP5200HC, DSP5000 rears, Meridian 210.
PC/Headphones: Mytek Liberty II, Sansui CA-F1, Sansui B-2301, Sennheiser HD800, Kef R3

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Originally Posted by OldDogCan
New speaker firmware to fix their faulty MQA implementation?
Such that I can use room correction, or other DSP, after the first unfold and still enjoy rendering by the speakers?
Other MQA licensees, such as with my iFi and Audioquest DACs, function properly in this regard, but not the 218, Explorer2 or SE speakers I own.
Will my other Meridian products ever become fully functional?
Sometimes I feel that I am Meridians biggest critic but I don't think it is fair to say their implementation of MQA is faulty as such. Especially as they were pretty much one of the first licensees out of the gate with a solution. Legacy, outdated perhaps, maybe even short sighted but certainly not faulty. If they are now changing their implementation to better reflect the market needs then I am all for it even though I think it probably lacks several things such as support for legacy products and almost certainly Meridian's own DSP IP such as Trifield and MRC. Still the ability to do DSP in a third-party product such as Roon is all I reasonably expected even if I hoped for more.

As to other Meridian products being fully functional I am not sure what you mean. I think that they are fully functional in a closed Meridian ecosystem but would be interested to hear views on what functionality is lacking. From my perspective I upgraded to a 5200SE centre years ago and then 5200SE fronts before changing them to 7200SEs. Not once in all my time as an SE owner have I ever seen a blue MQA light. If I could somehow unfold MQA in Roon, apply DSP, passthrough via my MS600 to my 7200SEs and see the blue light as the speakers do the final render I would consider myself lucky. Then again when I check my Roon playlists and realise just how little MQA tracks are on it RAAT support of legacy endpoints would probably see more use.

Hearing new firmware is inbound for the speakers is encouraging and I will certainly be enquiring more about this. Who knows maybe seeing a blue MQA light on my SEs for the first time might encourage me to work harder at finding MQA material which still seems in far to short a supply given some of the promises of yesteryear.

Anthony.


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Speakers: DSP7200SE FL/FR, DSP5200SE VC, DSP3200 x11, DSP320.2 VOG, DSW x4
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Blue light? I believe DSP and 800 series don’t have the blue LED.
The SE loudspeaker displays the sample rate at which the original master recording was captured and including MQA, that is exactly what I see on mine.

I am now very curious about the said software upgrades!

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I wouldn't know! I just assumed as I have yet to get MQA into my SEs.

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Sometimes I feel that I am Meridians biggest critic ....
No I think Ratbert has that accolade cry cry cry


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Hi Tom
Still enjoying my old DSP7200’s? cool

I hope Meridian develop and release some interesting and innovative consumer products in the future, I really do, but I am not holding my breath.

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Custom install only 😳


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Originally Posted by Jon Raines
Custom install only 😳
Probably, at least for the foreseeable future. frown

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Originally Posted by ncpl
Which probably means that they didn't land the licencing arrangement in time/gave up/still working on it/launched without/may add later via an update (delete or combine as you see it).
With Apple's new high resolution service coming (or here?), why be quick to support a device designed to run Roon/Tidal/Qobuz, etc. They will be slow walked through the approval process and always 3 features behind. Roon built into AV receivers, Tidal future video activities, who knows what else which competes with Apple devices, are reasons for Apple to be less than cooperative with a competing proprietary ecosystem.

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Originally Posted by Mtns
With Apple's new high resolution service coming (or here?)
AFAIK, it's a rebranding exercise, nothing more. Still 256 or maybe 320kbps AAC.


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For 210 owners that intend to utilise UPnP/DLNA - and don't use Roon or Bluetooth - on their Mac/PC...

Install Asset UPnP on your Mac/PC. There is a free and paid-for version. On initial launch, Asset UPnP will scan your music library.

Asset UPnP is developed by the same guys that gave us dBpoweramp.

Works on Synology and QNAP too.

Next, on your iPad, download (ironically) Linn Kazoo from the AppStore.

From Kazoo you should be able to then identify Asset UPnP as your music source and your 210 as your UPnP audio endpoint.

Surely, it wouldn’t be too arduous for Meridian to modify their new Control app to take advantage of Asset (instead of having to use Kazoo).


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