Thanks, with a lot of moving around I have been able to improvement the sound a lot.

It seems counter intuitive to have to place them closer? However, it worked better.

I am using type 1 with the 5200SE and a 218 controller. I have had several Meridian setups over the years. I just cant shake the feeling that the setting are not as tuned in as can be for optimal sound. Not 100% yet on my critical listing tracks but will keep trying.

218 controller, 5200SE, DSW.2 sub, Roon Nucleus, iPad