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#264704 2017-05-26 06:44
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The G95 sports Hypex amplification, so it was with interest that I read an interview with Hypex designer, Bruce Putzeys.

What I hadn't previously appreciated was his involvement in designing Kii Audio DSP loudspeakers.

It's worthwhile reading their acoustics and electronics pages.

These are exciting compact products - albeit costing around £9k per pair. Even so, I would like to see Meridian produce something similar.


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They sound amazing.

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What DAC did you demo them with? I heard them with a Merging Technolgies NADAC, quite special although I hear they require a significant running in period?

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Why external DAC? Kii has its own built in M DSP alike I thought. I was wondering the same when some Dutch online magazine tested the UltraDAC wit Kii I am sure you don't want DA/AD/DA if you want to keep signal clean as possible.


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I suspect the DAC in the NADAC is high quality and I believe feeding the Kii's on their analog input bypasses their DAC?

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I also experienced a dem with Kii/Nadac combination. I agree with Russ they probably need a good run in period, however more importantly they need a lot of space, not so good close to room boundaries due to rear bass firing.
With this in mind the cost of the bespoke stands has to be considered.

I believe M DSP products are more flexible with respect to customer constraints with regard to positioning.

Happy to be corrected as it was a relatively short demo.

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That would be the ONLY place that M's DSP's are more customer friendly. Unlike M, these are not burdened with MHR.


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What's the burdon of MHR? It's an optional EXTRA protocol available as an input to M DSP speakers.


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Just guessing, 96k limit?

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Originally Posted by Hector
I also experienced a dem with Kii/Nadac combination. I agree with Russ they probably need a good run in period, however more importantly they need a lot of space, not so good close to room boundaries due to rear bass firing.
With this in mind the cost of the bespoke stands has to be considered.

I believe M DSP products are more flexible with respect to customer constraints with regard to positioning.

Happy to be corrected as it was a relatively short demo.

Hector

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You are correct however the speakers have been running for quite a while now and the improvement is significant, also placement has been refined through experimentation.

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Originally Posted by Ratbert
Just guessing, 96k limit?
Which is a problem but not related to MHR other than if you want to use >96k, then you must use MHR.


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Originally Posted by Ian
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Just guessing, 96k limit?
Which is a problem but not related to MHR other than if you want to use >96k, then you must use MHR.
Thanks for the edification guys.

I personally do not see MHR as a constraint and 808v6/5200SE (full MQA) is great. No doubt in the distant future MQA will be described as a burden/constraint... crazy

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