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After having them for a few days, I was finally able to get them installed and fired up.
As far as sound quality goes, for a multichannel amplifier designed mainly for distributed audio, it is truly in a class by itself. Power, authority, speed, pace, dynamics, detail and most any favorable adjective ever read in a review all apply.
The amplifier it replaced was a Russound 1250MC which has served well and is a good multiroom audio amp on its own, is simply crushed by the 258. After driving 4 stereo zones at high volumes that draw scorn from the neighborhood, the amplifier remains room temperature. That said, they can be stacked at will without creating component killing heat thus saving rack space and btu output to deal with.
One thing of note when replacing another amplifier is to watch you polarities. Most any other amp that I have dealt with in the last 40 years, positive is on the left and negative is on the right. On the 258 the opposite is true, positive is left and negative is right.
The amplifier can be triggered via low voltage or from the front panel switch. If power is removed from the mains, the amplifier comes back up in the state it was in previously when power is restored.
The front panel is simply laid out with a single power button and adjacent LED which is blue in standby, white when running and red when in protection mode.
Back panel layout is similarly simple. Nicely spaced, discrete inputs and Phoenix connector speaker outputs, 5-30v trigger connector, and IEC power socket. Voltage is preset at the factory. I am really liking this piece in my system.
www.cmbintegrations.comOne step from the Presidency #1 Trinnov Altitude 32-8-16, 271, 8000XE, 7200SEHC, 7200.2, Seaton F18, JL Fathom F113, Revel w990's, Kef R7, ATI 528 Amp, JVC RS4100K, SI screen. Roon Nucleus+, Eno AG, Eno M link, 218. #2 Mark Levinson No5105, Ayre VX8 and CX8, Vandersteen Treo CT, Preamp varies. #3 Meridian Ellipse
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Ahem.... 218 or 258? One's interesting, the others just another installers multichannel amp.....
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Thanks for your correction. And yes it is an installers amp that actually sounds excellent.
www.cmbintegrations.comOne step from the Presidency #1 Trinnov Altitude 32-8-16, 271, 8000XE, 7200SEHC, 7200.2, Seaton F18, JL Fathom F113, Revel w990's, Kef R7, ATI 528 Amp, JVC RS4100K, SI screen. Roon Nucleus+, Eno AG, Eno M link, 218. #2 Mark Levinson No5105, Ayre VX8 and CX8, Vandersteen Treo CT, Preamp varies. #3 Meridian Ellipse
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So would you use the amp in a multi channel surround system? An Atmos system with multiple, small drives and powered subs? Is there enough power and depth? Am I alone In thinking it's a miss that you cannot bridge some of the channels?
Primary: MD600, MS200 (SpeakerLink to AES), Trinnov ST-2, Ayre V6-xe, Salk SS8 3x LRC. Secondary: MC600 (whole house). Zone one: 568.2, G57, MS200, Spatial Hologram M2SE. Zone 2-6 (Awaiting assignment).
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It is really designed for multiroom, distributed audio, whole house music use, could you utilize it for surround sound/multichannel use? Yes, but on a pretty small scale. Not bridgable, not the intended application.
www.cmbintegrations.comOne step from the Presidency #1 Trinnov Altitude 32-8-16, 271, 8000XE, 7200SEHC, 7200.2, Seaton F18, JL Fathom F113, Revel w990's, Kef R7, ATI 528 Amp, JVC RS4100K, SI screen. Roon Nucleus+, Eno AG, Eno M link, 218. #2 Mark Levinson No5105, Ayre VX8 and CX8, Vandersteen Treo CT, Preamp varies. #3 Meridian Ellipse
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70W per channel should do the job with sensitive speakers and a medium-sized room surely?
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Sure it could. The amp can be used in any way that up to 8 channels can be applied.
www.cmbintegrations.comOne step from the Presidency #1 Trinnov Altitude 32-8-16, 271, 8000XE, 7200SEHC, 7200.2, Seaton F18, JL Fathom F113, Revel w990's, Kef R7, ATI 528 Amp, JVC RS4100K, SI screen. Roon Nucleus+, Eno AG, Eno M link, 218. #2 Mark Levinson No5105, Ayre VX8 and CX8, Vandersteen Treo CT, Preamp varies. #3 Meridian Ellipse
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Any updates here? Better with age? Looking at the pictures of the interior, it seems lacking. This coming from a guy who built (assembled) his ownHypex NCore amp. Though oddly enough for that, the heft came from the power supplies and not the amps.
Primary: MD600, MS200 (SpeakerLink to AES), Trinnov ST-2, Ayre V6-xe, Salk SS8 3x LRC. Secondary: MC600 (whole house). Zone one: 568.2, G57, MS200, Spatial Hologram M2SE. Zone 2-6 (Awaiting assignment).
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What class D platform is the 258 based on? Is it documented anywhere? Hypex NCore amps are superb.
Last edited by Cliff.; 2017-04-08 11:31. Reason: make it clearer
Main system - Sources (Kodi-HTPC, Vero 4k, FireTV, Sat) into Trinnov Altitude 32 (8-16) (+Roon), Trinnov Amplitude 8 amp & Vivid Audio (Giya G3, V1.5) and REL Stentor III speakers. Others: F80 + Raspberry Pi and other Pi systems.
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The title was edited to reference the 258 vs the 218. After that at some point, the title at the top of replies has reverted back to 218. I also noted the comments in the thread about the 258 not being designed to be bridgeable. What constitutes " designed to be bridgeable" or what happens if you bridge 2 channels on an Amp not designed for such?
James NC1: 861v8, ID41, 218, 251(to outdoors), DSP8000SEUG, 7200SEC, DSP520 rears, Apple TV, DirecTV, Oppo BD103, QNAP251, Roon NC2-M7005, Triad Silver Speakers,Acurus Amps
FL1: 861v4, ID40, 218, MS200, DSP8000SEs, DSP7200SEC, DSP5000s, DirecTv, AppleTv, OppoBD103, QNAP469, Roon FL2: Marantz 7005, 251, M60s,60C,33s, Oppo BDP-93,MS200, Roon
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It has stayed basically the same in terms of sound quality. To me the biggest benefit is how cool it runs. When cranking to whole house audio, the Active Thermal fan never comes on any more. The equipment rack is in a closet in a knee wall space and it used to be the fan ran constantly while the system was on. Now it only runs when the surround amps have been on for a while.
www.cmbintegrations.comOne step from the Presidency #1 Trinnov Altitude 32-8-16, 271, 8000XE, 7200SEHC, 7200.2, Seaton F18, JL Fathom F113, Revel w990's, Kef R7, ATI 528 Amp, JVC RS4100K, SI screen. Roon Nucleus+, Eno AG, Eno M link, 218. #2 Mark Levinson No5105, Ayre VX8 and CX8, Vandersteen Treo CT, Preamp varies. #3 Meridian Ellipse
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What class D platform is the 258 based on? Is it documented anywhere? Hypex NCore amps are superb. It's not based on hypex, based on what I can see. I would bet it's the B&O ice that M has used before. I wonder how much of this amp is similar to the amps in the DSP speakers?
Primary: MD600, MS200 (SpeakerLink to AES), Trinnov ST-2, Ayre V6-xe, Salk SS8 3x LRC. Secondary: MC600 (whole house). Zone one: 568.2, G57, MS200, Spatial Hologram M2SE. Zone 2-6 (Awaiting assignment).
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