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I think it can help to understand the MQA Decoding / Unfolding Stages as below... and then to try and put the various Meridian bits of kit into their respective "box" of capability ![[Linked Image]](https://www.meridianunplugged.com/ubbthreads/gallery/16/full/2303.jpg)
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Thanks Ronnie.
Did you make those folding slides? Very nice, clear and fun!
I wonder where DSP SE speakers fit? They are often described as "renderers", as per your third slide. In that case given core decoded input they could do all the rest, maybe even including DAC compensation, except for authentication.
I am guessing authentication in this context means verified as genuine by the original artist and/or producer? That would have implications.
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Could you make a list of the Meridian products that are MQA core, MQA full decoder and MQA renderer? It will help to people like me that are not too knowledgeable pertaining streaming. Thanks
218, AC12, DSP6000 24/96LR, 4K AppleTV, Sony blu-ray player (BDP S570) and
QNAP TS-251 and a Mac Book Pro (mid 2012), an Intel Nuc8ieBEH
Technics SP10MK2 with Technics EPA100MK2 tone arm and PS Audio Phonolink Preamplfier
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MQA Core
808v6 SPDIF digital output and SpeakerLink to non-SE speakers (possibly)
818v3 SPDIF digital output and SpeakerLink to non-SE speakers (possibly)
218 SPDIF digital output and SpeakerLink to non-SE speakers (possibly)
MQA Full Decoder
Ultra DAC (definitely)
808v6 analogue outputs (definitely)
808v6 + SE loudspeakers connected with SpeakerLink (definitely)
818v3 analogue outputs (definitely)
818v3 + SE loudspeakers connected with SpeakerLink (definitely)
218 analogue output (definitely)
218 + SE loudspeakers connected with SpeakerLink (definitely)
Prime (definitely)
Explorer2 (definitely)
MQA Renderer
SE loudspeakers (possibly)
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218, AC12, DSP6000 24/96LR, 4K AppleTV, Sony blu-ray player (BDP S570) and
QNAP TS-251 and a Mac Book Pro (mid 2012), an Intel Nuc8ieBEH
Technics SP10MK2 with Technics EPA100MK2 tone arm and PS Audio Phonolink Preamplfier
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It is my understanding —confirmed by the User Guide— that the 818v3 does MQA decoding and rendering on its analogue outputs. Soundserge
Antipodes CX + Roon, 818v3, DSP 7200SEs, 218, DSP3200s
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As does the 808v6, Ultra DAC, and presumably the 218
www.cmbintegrations.comOne step from the Presidency #1 Trinnov Altitude 32-8-16, 271, 8000XE, 7200SEHC, 7200.2, Seaton F18, JL Fathom F113, Revel w990's, Kef R7, ATI 528 Amp, JVC RS4100K, SI screen. Roon Nucleus+, Eno AG, Eno M link, 218. #2 Mark Levinson No5105, Ayre VX8 and CX8, Vandersteen Treo CT, Preamp varies. #3 Meridian Ellipse
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As does the 808v6, Ultra DAC, and presumably the 218 Agreed.
Antipodes CX + Roon, 818v3, DSP 7200SEs, 218, DSP3200s
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I've adjusted the graphic above to put the various Meridian Products in the various MQA Categories Please feel free to suggest any changes or additions, as the above is really just a 1st draft ![[Linked Image]](https://www.meridianunplugged.com/ubbthreads/gallery/16/full/2305.jpg)
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Great work Ronnie. Will this go in the wiki for future reference? I can see me trawling search for this down the line.
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2. AC200, DSP5200SL, Squeezebox Touch, Rega Planer 2, Ortofon red
3. Lenovo Thinkpad, Prime, Prime Power Supply, Explorer2, Sennheiser HD700 cans, Shure SE425 buds
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MQA decoding / decoding + rendering is available on all 808v6/818v3 digital inputs (ID41, USB, optical, coax, SpeakerLink). I have not tested optical or SpeakerLink.
Basically, the digital input card *is* the MQA card. All inputs are decoded. Audio from the ID41 is transferred to the digital input card for decoding.
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Ronnie,
Where does the combination 218 to non SE speakers via SL go?
My understanding was that the 218 would let me render the best possible MQA up to 24/96 in my non SE DSP8000.2?
I am still confused how that should be set up through/parallel with my existing 861v8 and my Sooloos system...
Current main Sweden: 861v8, 808v6, UHD722, Oppo 103, Dell S718QL short throw Laser 4K HDR
8KUSE, 7200HCUSE, 3200
Other apartment: 818v3, MD600, 5200SE
Study : Meridian Prime Amplifier, Sennheiser HD 820
on the go Focal Bath's
Not connected(possibly for sale): G95, F80, HD621, 7200HC.2, 218
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