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I have a small 13X20 media room that currently has speakers that are to large (Carver ALS) and overpowering for the room, I also have a 568 and a pair of 18 bit 5KDSP in use in a separate listening area. . My thoughts are to buy three more 5KDSP and use with the 568. The main other reason is that for stereo I find the 568 and 5KDSP quite nice. Thoughts or suggestions are appreciated. Carlton
BTW: Glad that the 568 did not sale while I had it listed on eBay
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That will work fine.
You'll probably REALLY want to add a sub. and you might want to get one with it's own room EQ. Or look for a used G6x with Room Correction. They are ridiculously cheap.
Also keep in mind that if you run a mix of 24/96 and 18bit that the system may reduce some speakers that can do 24/96 to 18bit.
Your "over powering" probably means boomy bass that is not room corrected.
It's pretty hard to have speakers too big for a room, as long as the speakers and room are setup correctly. And the equipment is good. The DSP's have a tiny bit of room adjust ment with a very broad brush (Corner, Wall, Free).
You can also play with crossover to a room EQ sub and it handle the room issues. But the 5K's can put out some nice bass so initially set the cross over low and see if you can make that work first. Distributed bass to all the 5K's helps too.
I really really like the Definitive Technology SuperCubes (SC6000). Cost peanuts too, in the scope of "High End Meridian". SC6000 does not have Room EQ but does have something similar to what the 5K's have, manual set desired EQ Curve.
You could try a mix too with your Carvers and cross them over high. But having all matched speakers is a huge plus.
Oh I should have asked, are the Carvers overpowering sound wise or looks/size wise?
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That should work well in that space. You should also consider a subwoofer.
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Yes the Carvers are both visually imposing and by the being dipolar by nature, they are at their best placed well into the room. I do have a couple of rhythmic 15 inch suboower that I could use.
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Hi Carlton.
Up until recently I had a 568.2mm with dsp5k speakers,
Fantastic sounding system! The 568 even in original version is regarded as a fabulous preamp with a very good DAC onboard.
If you already have the 568 I would most certainly be tempted to add a pair of 5ks to it then sit back and enjoy!
Good luck!
Kind regards David
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Thanks David,
I agree whole heatedly.about the 568 5K combo. That is the reason I am looking to add three more 5ks and install it in my media room.
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Superb!
The restaurant here on the forum is a great place to pick up some pre loved equipment from fellow enthusiasts.
Or friendly dealers for that matter!
I hope it all comes together just as you want!
Kind regards David
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Thanks for the tip David.
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Another option might be to add 3 5000Cs to your system; they really do go for next to nothing & 3 of them shelf mounted might help with bass issues; having them off the floor would help to prevent boom.
I have a soon-to-be unused 5000C that would sell for pennies over here; I might buy a second one and use them as rears in a 7.2 setup.
Just a thought.
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I did consider that option for a while but now that I have started to reconfigure in my mind the system I want.
I will acquire three more 5K's and call it a day. It is very appealing visually and sonically to be surrounded by matched outputs. If that makes any $ense.
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Just purchased a pair of 5K's off of eBay. They are 24 bit units. Although I was originally looking for 18 bit units to match the 18 bit pair that I own.
With that being said I am now thinking on now using three 24 bit units across the fron and placing the 18 bit units in the rear.
Also I think I read that the 568 does not output 24bit digitally across all channels. If this is correct, which channels do not have the ability to send the 24 bit output.
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