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That's more like it - apart from the cables, exactly the same system dCS use to demonstrate their equipment.
Streaming: Roon, NUC, QNAP869 NAS 2ch system: dCS Vivaldi, Audionet Stern, Audionet Heisenberg, Magico Q1 Retro system: 101/104/105, Red Rose Spirit
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Yes Ultra DAC on demonstration here in Kent.
We could not wait to hear it and test it out with a view to buy.
The results we found were stagggering and basically it made Tidal sound similar to some MQA recordings. I mean internet radio was the best we have heard.
We would say it is an alternative to spending 30-40k on full analogue system.
We first set up with the new Bryston cubed and planted a set of PMC FACT 12 sopeakers on the end and the performance was simply stunning.
We then changed the speakers for the a pair of 802D3 speakers and my goodness, we were shocked to be fair. Anyone who has not bought into streaming due to lack of quality will enjoy this. Reference pre amplifier, Reference streaming and probably the best DAC on the planet.
Meridian are renowned inovators and what they have learned from developing MQA is impressive but to bring out a DAC that can offer the same improvement to any music you have or are going to buy is quite incredible.
For people who want the very best head unit on a new or existing analogue system.
Who is next for a demonstration here or at home ?
www.SoundcraftHiFi.com Tel. 01233 624 441 Providing high quality sales and service to our customers for over fifty years. We are always pleased to see both old and new faces. Why not call in to our store and experience Soundcraft Hi-Fi's expertise and enthusiasm.
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We would say it is an alternative to spending 30-40k on full analogue system. I’m somewhat sceptical about statements like that. No DAC, however good is going turn average speakers into great ones. In my experience, the latter has the greatest influence on the overall sound of a system.
Main system - Sources (Kodi-HTPC, Vero 4k, FireTV, Sat) into Trinnov Altitude 32 (8-16) (+Roon), Trinnov Amplitude 8 amp & Vivid Audio (Giya G3, V1.5) and REL Stentor III speakers. Others: F80 + Raspberry Pi and other Pi systems.
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Thanks for the impressions - interesting! We would say it is an alternative to spending 30-40k on full analogue system. Could you clarify what you meant by this, please, as I think it's a little ambiguous. Obviously the DAC has to go in an analogue system (i.e., not using DSP speakers, etc.) did you mean changing over to an analogue setup? For those of us with DSPs and processors, this would very likely mean spending at least that amount on the rest of the system, potentially? Or did you mean the DAC as a source, instead of 30-40k of analogue front-end, e.g. a very very good turntable?
HC: 861v4/ID40/LPS, DSP5000, DSP5000VC, DSP3100, SW1600, HD621, Oppo BDP-105, Sony VPL-HW55ES 2-Channel: Oppo BDP-105, TEAC VRDS-7/Trichord Clock 3/PSU, 551, Quad 303, Harbeth Compact 7ES-3, Kimber cables, Russ Andrews mains and supports. Previous Meridian: 5000C, 5200SL, 7200.2, 6000, 562V.2, 568.2mm, 800v4, 808.2i, 818v2/v3, 861v8, 502
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Or did you mean an alternative to spending 30-40k on a full *digital* system?
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And how much does this analogue alternative cost?
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Ultra DAC + Bryston 7B3 + B&W 802 D3 = £42,500 + cables.
Streaming: Roon, NUC, QNAP869 NAS 2ch system: dCS Vivaldi, Audionet Stern, Audionet Heisenberg, Magico Q1 Retro system: 101/104/105, Red Rose Spirit
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+ room treatment (probably) as you have no RC
Main system - Sources (Kodi-HTPC, Vero 4k, FireTV, Sat) into Trinnov Altitude 32 (8-16) (+Roon), Trinnov Amplitude 8 amp & Vivid Audio (Giya G3, V1.5) and REL Stentor III speakers. Others: F80 + Raspberry Pi and other Pi systems.
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Meridian 2-Channel systems don't have RC either, though.
HC: 861v4/ID40/LPS, DSP5000, DSP5000VC, DSP3100, SW1600, HD621, Oppo BDP-105, Sony VPL-HW55ES 2-Channel: Oppo BDP-105, TEAC VRDS-7/Trichord Clock 3/PSU, 551, Quad 303, Harbeth Compact 7ES-3, Kimber cables, Russ Andrews mains and supports. Previous Meridian: 5000C, 5200SL, 7200.2, 6000, 562V.2, 568.2mm, 800v4, 808.2i, 818v2/v3, 861v8, 502
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and probably the best DAC on the planet I (sort of) admire your enthusiasm. Some context would be useful though. There are some exceptional DACs out there and the incoming signal and its treatment can be very important. A bit more meat on the bones please?
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I guess a question might be how this sounds vs 8000SE with the successor of the MS200 for a digital system of comparable price.
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When there is a pre, a shootout vs 818v3 would be easy to accomplish in identical circumstances for the inquiring mind.
I also notice from the comments around the globe that M works quite well in a D'agostino pre/power wilson systems. Also Boulder pre/power is a nice match as we've had reported.
I really hope the DAC is a success and many new analog owners enters the world of Meridian.
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