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I see that Paul Stephenson from Naim says MQA has potential, but doesn't make the grade on sound quality in his opinion. Mind you, the M & N philosophies are pretty far apart in many ways. I do wonder if the extra processing might affect the musicality, as some experience between CD players and streamers and FLAC/ WAV. From discussion with Richard Hollinshead, where the different parts of that processing occurs could make a big difference on the ultimate experience. As I am still using a 20 year old CD player, I am pretty confident that MQA wil deliver what I want from digital for a streaming solution. Bring on CES!
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Ha, Bob's last words on this video were "live in Hope"...
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For those that haven't watched the video, in response to a question on the availability of MQA Bob S clearly states that "between now and the end of this year" there will be "several places offering downloads of (MQA) files" that can be played. Somehow I don't think that will happen this year, but it's a good sign! The 2L website has numerous MQA tracks available for download and we are still in 2015 (sound of hats being eaten).
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2 L is one of my favorite music label in a long time. Yesterday I loaded 2 beautiful album in MQA quality down. The music is wonderful - but the sound comes in CD quality - 16/44. A download in hires 24/96 have been better! But I wanted a MQA test. Now it's up to Meridian - because neither my 861V4 brings new MQA quality on my DSP 8000SE, nor can I bring on the Mac and Explorer 2 something - because the firmware upgrade is missing. Maybe we have to wait until early CES or earlier still surprised.
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I have just downloaded the following album from the 2L website: ![[Linked Image]](https://www.meridianunplugged.com/ubbthreads/gallery/16/full/2063.jpg) It loaded on my Sooloos store (QNAP NAS) with no problems and played through my 818v3 via ID41. However, the 818v3 display is only showing "PCM 44K" whereas I expected to see "MQA" somewhere on the display. I suspect the 818v3 is not recognising that this is a MQA file and simply playing the 44K layer. I had thought that the 818v3 was fully MQA ready but this suggests otherwise. Note also the pricing structure of the 2L website - the MQA album was $24.00 and sits at the lower end of the hi res pricing structure. More expensive that plain vanilla 24/96 but cheaper than 24/192 and DSD/DXD. Further tests to follow later today - all input on whether the 818v3 still needs a firmware upgrade gratefully received.
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MQA paid downloads are 44kHz files? That's confused me. I thought they would be 96kHz. Better wait for clarification, I guess....
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I have just downloaded the following album from the 2L website: It loaded on my Sooloos store (QNAP NAS) with no problems and played through my 818v3 via ID41. However, the 818v3 display is only showing "PCM 44K" whereas I expected to see "MQA" somewhere on the display. I suspect the 818v3 is not recognising that this is a MQA file and simply playing the 44K layer. I had thought that the 818v3 was fully MQA ready but this suggests otherwise. Note also the pricing structure of the 2L website - the MQA album was $24.00 and sits at the lower end of the hi res pricing structure. More expensive that plain vanilla 24/96 but cheaper than 24/192 and DSD/DXD. Further tests to follow later today - all input on whether the 818v3 still needs a firmware upgrade gratefully received. The pricing policy of 2L, I also found interesting - MQA as second deepest classification? Now - good for us! What really surprised me that even you with the 818v3 do not get displayed and play MQA! Welcome in the waiting room at doctor Meridian! ;-) Something Special - MQA is shipped from distributors and Meridian as a developer does not have its own equipment ready! Greetings from Switzerland Stefan
M since 1980 - Series 100! Main: 861v8, 818v3, UHD722, 2-DSP8000SE, DSP5500HC, 4-DSP6000 S, DSP6000 R, Oppo 203 4K, MacMini M1 16GB-Roon 4TB SSD, NVIDIA Shield, Sony VPL-VW500-4K, Samsung OLED 77-4K, iPad Pro, Turntable: Acoustic-Solid Royal/Ortofon SPU Royal N, PPA Quad P24
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MQA paid downloads are 44kHz files? That's confused me. I thought they would be 96kHz. Better wait for clarification, I guess.... Possibly - but this would be a lost marketing opportunity. Is it not more likely that the files are not playing as full fat MQA because of a firmware issue? Nic - could you download an album and replicate the problem on your 818v3 through SE DSPs? I have tried with MHR turned on (and off) in my analogue system.
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It has been confirmed elsewhere on the forum that all the current Meridian MQA capable products were shipped with a 0.9 firmware version. They need to be 1.0 which is due soon. MQA is packaged up in a 24/48 box and will play as 16/44 without a decoder. Xanavi in another thread, is claiming an improvement over 24/96 that is possibly due to the de-blurring that happens to the master, which benefits standard resolution as Bob has talked about.
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It has been confirmed elsewhere on the forum that all the current Meridian MQA capable products were shipped with a 0.9 firmware version. They need to be 1.0 which is due soon. MQA is packaged up in a 24/48 box and will play as 16/44 without a decoder. I must have missed this, which flatly contradicts what I was told when I upgraded to 818v3. Can you point out these posts please?
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I can't point to a source online but I know from an excellent source that a firmware update will be necessary.
I didn't hear any dates, but I suspect it's round the corner, especially with CES in 10 days.
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Great. Another piece of marketing excellence.
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