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The clipping light just indicates digital clipping, i.e. a hot recording, usually something modern, mastered by a man in his shed somewhere. If I play my CD's I never see the yellow light.
I have seen the same on several pairs of 5k's now so it's not a problem. The actual volume of the music at this point is at least 70 and far louder than I want to tolerate for any length of time.
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I would like to make sure I understand the question. Are we talking the value on the display of our gear (i.e. 808) or are we talking on a SPL meter?
According to my SPL meter I normally listen in the low to mid 70dB region. Occasionally I will hit the low 80dB's on certain tracks. My 808 is set to 87 which is the equivalent to its fixed outputs. I adjust my volume on my pre-amp.
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You are of course right Still-one.
It all depends on the recording.
For instance, Wayne Marshall Plays Gershwin at DSP 50 is so low I can hear SWMBO breathing. Needs at least DSP 70 to come to life.
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Hector
What I am asking, when people in this thread have indicated a value are they referring to 75dB on a SPL or are they indicating the 75 that is shown in the display of their Meridian CD/Pre.
Those are two different values.
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Yes I understand your point and agree with you that SPL is the only reasonable benchmark not the DSP display.
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Depending on my mood and type of music,
75 on display, 75-80dB at the least to 95 on display, 95-100dB at the max.
The latter obviously for short sessions.
But there are times when I wish the speakers would go louder. For some reason I am not able to bring myself to go to 99 even if I want louder so 95 is my effective limit!
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Loud enough is normally 55-62 on DSPs for me. Above that, more than I need and not at all OK with my wife who often asks if "I know how loud it is?"
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IIRC I played some Foofighters a few years ago on about 85-90 (DSP speedo) and it was clocking about 120 on my spl meter. It was very very loud!!
Folks should not think the display figure is decibels.
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Those figures don't seem quite right to me. Clearly 85-90 is some way from 'flat out' & even 8000s aren't capable of 120db (according to Meridian).
Not sure what DSPs you run but eg 6000s seemingly max-out at 114db.
Maybe an optimistic SPL meter!
I played some Gojira a few months ago at 95 & got 112 (or was it 114db?) on my SPL meter.
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Having recently heard a pair of 8k's I can quite believe 120db to be entirely possible!
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I did preface it with a IIRC so reserve the right to be a bit out on the exact number. However, it was definitely a "WOW that really is loud" number. If I get chance I will repeat it and post the pic of the spl screen.
8k sat at about 3.5m.
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I was lucky enough to go to a dem of the 8kSE and cranked the volume round to 90 or so & they certainly pack a punch. 
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