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This has appeared - has anyone seen how much imporvement the HDMI brings? http://www.highfidelityreview.com/news/news.asp?newsnumber=13243351 Richard
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Robert.W Great Green Arkleseizure
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Reading the article i couldnt find anything about audio improvements..??
Stacey,do you know something abou that?
Robert
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It adds video scaling like the G9x. This does not include the high resolution audio support.
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800v3/218/271/8k.2/5k5s /5kC/DSP3200/Reviver/ TT-ELP/Graham Slee Revelation/Trinnov Altitude 32/OPPO 205 __Ayon/HB/Shunyata/Miltzow -- power cables, __Ayon/Jungson/Miltzow --analog, Miltzow-- digital, __Vortex/WMA ,
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I'm amazed then that there is no new software for the 800 series...
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Have they eliminated the chroma bug in the upgrade in any way?
I currently run 480i component out of my 800, but routinely am bothered by the chroma bug. My display is only analog in for now.
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I assume the MPEG decoder will not change all of a sudden..
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I'm not familiar enough with the MPEG decoder architecture to know if chroma bug could be fixed with a firmware update.
I doubt it, but I don't know with any certainty.
Cheers,
Surround Music Fan/Computer Geek/Curmudgeon in training.
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Perhaps if they use a Faroudja type filter they can mask the CUE (chroma bug)? Id be curious too- but honestly, the output is so clean out of the analog outs that I am more than satisfied with DVD video on the 800. I am now just waiting for the new paradigm of whatever happens with HD DVD....
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Jerry
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SDI out is even better. The high frequencys were better on my system (800SDI -> Holo3d-2 -> Barco G808s)
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Jerry,
They don't have to use a "Faroudja type filter", they use Faroudja products for deinterlacing and scaling so they can actually use a Faroudja filter.
The trade off, is that you sacrifice resolution which equates to sharpness.
Stacey can chime in and fix this if I botch it, but I believe Faroudja's LPF cuts out half of the chroma resolution.
Cheers,
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John,
I've heard very mixed things about the video quality from people who I trust. Some say its great, others say the output from the M SDI card is not really all that great.
My understanding on the Faroudja method is, yes, it cuts out some of the chroma because of a bottleneck in their product that requires the 480i signal to be converted into y/c. From there it does their chroma enhancement by mapping the chroma channel to information in the luminance channel. You'll have to pardon me if I have this wrong, its been a little while. In any event, I can tell you that analog out of the 800->Faroudja NRS->DVI->DLP= WOWOWOWOWOW!!!! picture. Extremely vibrant colors. I am so satisfied with the results that I just have lost the desire to upgrade and upgrade. I think I am waiting for the eventual HD-DVD- whenever that happens!
Best regards,
Jerry
Best regards,
Jerry
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