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I've been playing my 5500's with the h1212 replacements in them and they sound amazing now, better than the other I speakers I have - I don't detect any abnormalities to the sound - the air, and transparently is there now.
I'm going to put the original tweeters back in the speakers later today to see if they now sound as good as the h1212
Looking at the tweeter upon taking it apart I don't see anything that is super special about it that would be different from a replacement (h1212) especially if the electrical plot is comparable - sound wise they are a ton better than the old originals... ... later that same day... I'm intrigued. What were the results of testing? Cheers Mike
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Thymanst, I'm wondering if my 5k's would benefit from some new tweeters, your thoughts on how they improved the 5k5's would be greatly appreciated
Kind regards David
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I was wondering how this Seas T29b001 Beryllium tweeter would sound in my DSP6000's. The Beryllium Seas have almost the same spec as the Seas Excel black dome ones. I am waiting on one Excel for my DSP5500HC. I have Prestige H1212 replacements on my DSP6000's which sound great. Just was curious who has tried Beryllium swap.
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Let us know if you try it, I'm interested. Thanks
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So, a tweeter swap for 1k$ that does not have the proper crossover electronics for it and just hoping the quality of the part itself will be enough improvement?
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Indeed!
I have over the last 6 months refurbished a number of tweeters and have tested the h1212 units alongside the originals and can categorically state they sound different.
If you are using them to replace older units they are going to sound better as the ferrofluid deteriorates, reducing its output.
In this instance it is best to replace with one of the oem units as there is a difference in sound, not a huge difference, but it's there.
The same will apply to other units, whether or not they are a better unit makes little difference if the eq profile is different.
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Hello all,
I bought some pretty old 5ks, and am enjoying them quite a lot. But not quite what I expected. In the parlance, they lack "air". Nice and tight and very pleasant at low volumes, but well, just not all there up top.
So I bought some replacement tweeters. I'm doing it all on a budget, so got the H1212's rather than the genuine Meridian replacements.
But, question is, how to fit them? I sat down just now, unscrewed the originals carefully, and tried to prise them out and... they just didn't budge.
I removed the six philips screws on the outer surround. There are some torx screws on the inside, under the metal grill, but they don't look like they attach the tweeter to the cabinet.
Do I need to open up the back of the speakers to get to them?
I'm not an experienced surgeon (though have used a soldering iron in my time) and don't want to cut more than I absolutely need...
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sounds like the tweeters are stuck in place by the gaskets, you will need to use something like a larger Allen key in one of the screw holes and lever it gently toward the centre, it will give eventually. Don't undo the torx screws under the grill as this holds the front plate to the magnet!
The 1212 units are not a drop in replacement and will require some surgery to the cabinet!
Best IMHO to replace like for like and save yourself the bother!
Also don't cut the cables as you don't have much to play with, best unsolder.
If you want I can take a look at the tweeters, if they are not too far gone I can have them back as new for very little!
If the speakers are old then it's also time to look at getting the amp section recapped.
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Is it possible to use the tweeter from DSP7200.2 on DSP6000 (96/24)? I will find out, I just ordered a pair for my DSP6000's. I believe so no problem only a minor difference to the ones they sell now for replacements.
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The .2's are I believe a more sensitive version so will probably need to be adjusted for in the calibration.
In order to get the best out of them you will need a digital equaliser in the chain. Something like a Behringer ultra curve pro or a MiniDSP / Dirac combo.
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I was told a minor difference and cosmetic.
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Report back when you have tried them out, will be interesting to see what differences you find!
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