logo

Google Search  |  Meridian Systems  |  Meridian Streaming  |  Restaurant  |  WiKi  |  Duncan's Meridian Info  |  Board Rules  |  Restaurant Rules
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Huw #235275 2015-05-18 21:42
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,036
Pan-dimensional being
Pan-dimensional being
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,036
It looks like M will be implementing Sooloos changes so that it can monitor your Core, so I guess you will have to wait until then


.
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 4,014
Vogon Civil Servant
Vogon Civil Servant
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 4,014
Sorry, do you mean that M will be implementing changes so that Roon can monitor your Sooloos core??

If that's what you mean, then I haven't heard or read anything to that effect??


-
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,036
Pan-dimensional being
Pan-dimensional being
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,036
Well that's what I took this to mean in John B's update.
Originally Posted by John Buchanan
Moreover, we are enabling the Sooloos music library to be ‘watched’ allowing you to try alternative music control apps, such as the forthcoming Roon software, but to keep all of your superior, bespoke metadata.


.
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 8,814
Likes: 87
President of the Imperial Galactic Government
President of the Imperial Galactic Government
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 8,814
Likes: 87
Unless M run a tagtool over the library to embed tags then I expect any work would be at the Roon end.


Rgds,
Nick


ncpl #235282 2015-05-18 22:13
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,036
Pan-dimensional being
Pan-dimensional being
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,036
To me, the statement clearly implies work by Meridian. I wouldn't begin to understand the technicalities though. Either way, it still seems to imply that you will not need to export in order to use Roon.


.
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 651
Likes: 3
Huw
Offline
Paranoid android
Paranoid android
Offline
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 651
Likes: 3
Here we again living on aspirations and rumours on the Forum.

This whole thing is filled with uncertainty, I can understand that Meridian or others cannot announce updates simultaneously which give the required integration, but it really poor that we do not know PRECISELY what is going to happen with a clear target date, otherwise we all groping around in the dark. That's pretty evident from many posts on the Forum.

Please Meridian can you make a definitive statement about this - also MQA please.

Regards Huw


#1 52KSE 218 LG OLED Sony BRay, Sonos Beam 2
#2 52KSE 218 Pana LED Zenith 2 Naim Muso2
#3 Teac X1 CD, G68, 562v3 518 568 556 G98DH 5K,5KHC 24/96,MS600,Systemdek I920, Ortofon M520, Synthèse Floating 2 Thorens TD160 Ortofon M15e Pioneer DAT Panny Plasma,Humax,BRay.
#4 Panasonic 4K LED Sonos Beam 2
#5 F80 MS200 iDock Sonos Move
#6 MS200 5K 24/96
Huw #235287 2015-05-18 23:26
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 185
Hitchhiker
Hitchhiker
Offline
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 185
With regard to exporting 4300 albums, you can just start it up and come back after a few days. I did it because I found I had more order in my Sooloos library than among my original RIPs, long before Roon, I wanted to put my music on mobile devices.


Music room: 818v3, DSP8000SE, Roon/Intel NUC, microRendu/LPS-1 into Geek Pulse Xfi into Audeze LCD-3
HT: G61R, HD621, MS600, Oppo, Avantgarde Solo
Library: MS600, Bel Canto, Mark & Daniel
Other: SonicOrbiter, GeekOut, Audeze EL-8
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 4,014
Vogon Civil Servant
Vogon Civil Servant
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 4,014
People here have been using other apps to watch the Sooloos library for years now......e.g. people with Sonos and Squeezebox systems have been pointing them at the Sooloos database.......getting about 75% Album ID success.....and listening to the Sooloos Stored tracks thru their Sonos and SB kit.

So, this 'promise' from Meridian is nothing new to be honest......and really only likely involves making the process a little easier for those who don't know how to do it already

Likewise, Roon can be pointed at the Sooloos library......and will likely achieve a 75-85% Album ID success rate.......and be able to play Music from the Sooloos store......hence the suggestion to first Export the Sooloos library, which will enable Roon and other apps to achieve a much higher album ID success rate than above

At the base of this, it needs to be understood that Sooloos uses a Folder and Indexing structure that was designed to suit the computer hardware available back in 2005.......and talking about computer hardware from 10 years ago, is akin to talking about cars from 50+ years ago......i.e. it's not relevant to today's technology

Making any notable changes to this Sooloos structure will involve a ground-up redesign taking many, many manhours.......and it is only after such a redesign that Roon and other Music apps will be able to read the Sooloos database with a higher success rate than above

Last edited by Ronnie; 2015-05-18 23:44.

-
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 8,814
Likes: 87
President of the Imperial Galactic Government
President of the Imperial Galactic Government
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 8,814
Likes: 87
Hi Ronnie, I guess your example figure of 75% is based on 25% being ripped by a C15 or Control:PC or Control:Mac whereby tracks don't carry any meta tags for identification.
If a user has used EAC, dBpa etc. to rip CD's and import to Sooloos and thus has files WITH tags, then SB and Sonos would read the store and show 100%.

I got very close to 100% when I ran both systems reading my MD600.

If M were to do something to make reading a store more effective, then I personally would modify the meta tag tool to take Sooloos album info from the album fse file and write tags for the track files of the album. M should also change the CD RIP program to NOT strip meta tags.

A tagtool does this today during export. It would be almost the same but without the export.

There are obviously others ways to achieve this. The above is just a thought on how M could do it to align with Roon if that is what JB means.


Rgds,
Nick


ncpl #235296 2015-05-19 07:04
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 6,569
Likes: 13
President of the Imperial Galactic Government
President of the Imperial Galactic Government
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 6,569
Likes: 13
Apologies if this is a daft idea, but if you have a Sooloos library that has been ripped in Sooloos, would a Native export and then re import the files to Sooloos on a clean hard drive put you in a good position for using both systems?

Chris smile


No 18 in the Hall of fame smile I have simple tastes; I am content to settle for the best:
GIK monster bass panels, rear wall. QNAP TVS 471i3. Roon into DSP5200SE via 210/ 218 zone... Explorer 2. Bluesound Pulse 2, Mini & Flex. 596v1, 518, Foxsat HD, Sony BDP, Pioneer 5090, 2 Chromecast's for LRB videos. MS200 to F80 for a Roon zone

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,013
Likes: 1
Vogon Civil Servant
Vogon Civil Servant
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,013
Likes: 1
No need to apologise.

Yes it is a daft idea. smile

The Sooloos database structure creates problems for Roon that a native export from Sooloos solves. Reimporting the files back into Sooloos will merely replicate the Sooloos folder structure that it's helpful to avoid.

I'm exporting my Sooloos library now and I will keep it as a separate Roon library.


Sooloos, Roon, G series (with LPS upgrade), 800 series (with LPS upgrade), HD621, AC200, Prime and PS, DSPs old and new.

Purdeys, Moke, Leica, 'Blad. Only the best.
Ratbert
Unregistered
Ratbert
Unregistered
dpstjp

I have the same, a Roon library and a Sooloos library, just in case, as example hardware for HH's to export their library to I used this Icybox enclosure you then just need one or two disks of the appropriate size, quite cost effective I thought, ncpl suggested it to me.

Cheers

Russ

Page 2 of 3 1 2 3

Moderated by  Carl, Duncs, ncpl 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 151 guests, and 3 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
Kiran1103, Tony999, PhilP, Grover, Humberto
5,503 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
Gemeni 7
Top Posters
VirusKiller 12,733
ncpl 8,814
Carl 8,505
Fiddler 8,364
Ian 7,950
Forum Statistics
Forums18
Topics31,202
Posts297,169
Members5,503
Most Online4,788
May 22nd, 2026
Meridian  |  Media Centre  |  Support  |  Firmware Release Notes  |  RSS Systems  |  RSS Streaming  |  RSS Restaurant

Website Provided by Mr Tech Guy - Resolute Audio Visual Limited © 2026

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 8.0.1
(Release build 20251126)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 8.5.11 Page Time: 0.057s Queries: 40 (0.029s) Memory: 0.8840 MB (Peak: 2.2159 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2026-10-05 22:11:54 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS