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Mr Stuart,

That's excellent news about QNAP running Core for free.

M ought to sell an awful lot of end points at that price point.

When you do release further details it would be great to know how many zones the various QNAP models could reasonably run.

Thank you.


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Shame the PC can't be a local host - seems a backward step given it can be on Control:PC and the Web UI at present - and I find it works really well running directly from my Surface 2...

Hopefully the exisitng web UI will remain in tandem so we can still access this functionality for non critical listening...

Thanks for the update though - loving this extra communication!


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Simon, you might have just hit it.

I can use Control:PC to control zones running under Control:PC on other PCs.

If Touch:PC can also control Control:PC zones on other machines, then it should be able to control a Control:PC zone running on the same PC as Touch:PC.

Thus you have your solution, albeit not in a single application.


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You may have missed this point.
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Our experience teaches us without any doubt that to get the best sound you need dedicated and carefully optimised hardware at the point where audio becomes analogue. It's no accident that the 800 Series, our dedicated endpoints such as MS600 and MS200 and the DSP loudspeakers are designed as they are.

Which would seem to be why allowing audio from a touch screen computer would compromise Meridian's reputation for audio quality. People would think they are getting a cheap C15 forgetting the audio quality bit.
Adding an MS200 for audio quality seems fair all round to me.

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However, you could use Control:PC or Control:Mac with a USB endpoint such as a Prime, Explorer, or Director... once Control:PC and Control:Mac are updated to do bit-perfect...


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So, to clarify the situation...

If I want to 'own' my music system (Sooloos), rather than 'rent' it (Roon), all I need is the following...

QNAP HS-251,
iPad,
MS200 (with custom cable),
Meridian G95


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If you are posting to "clarify" a situation then surely you shouldn't ignore the "own Roon" option and focus only on the subscription model.

You don't like subs models...that's fine.


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Originally Posted by Spinaltap
If I want to 'own' my music system (Sooloos), rather than 'rent' it (Roon)...
Hi,

Sorry I don't follow your thought train here with this distinction. Both Sooloos and Roon support playing your 'own' local audio file and again both support a lossless streaming options 'rent' from Tidal. Am I missing something?

Originally Posted by Spinaltap
QNAP HS-251,
iPad,
MS200 (with custom cable),
Meridian G95
My thoughts on this list:

Sooloos
Presently the Sooloos Core does not run on QNAP, but Meridian have said it's on the roadmap. So today you would also need a Sooloos device to run the Core i.e. a MC200.

Roon
Presently the Roon appplication does not run on QNAP, it is on the roadmap but I've know idea on timing. Thus today you would also need a PC or Mac.
Also the Roon application does not run on iPad, it is on the roadmap, but most likely support for Android will be launched first.

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Carl


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I'm planning ahead...

BobS has clearly stated that a new version of Sooloos will specifically run on a QNAP HS-251. I am assuming that I will be able to control such a system (to a MS200 end-point via iPad). Is this correct?

Roon is a monthly subscription service (if one chooses not to buy into a lifetime subscription), Sooloos isn't.

With Roon, 'all that glisters isn't Gold' (Shakespeare). With all the good will in the world, it's a start-up company. I hope that it thrives. However, Meridian by comparison is firmly established.

So, without looking at Roon through rose-tinted spectacles, I'm simply asking if my premise of running Sooloos through a QNAP HS-251 to a MS200 is a viable alternative to Roon.


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I think Bob stated a QNAP TS-251 with 4GB memory would be used for demonstration at the Munich show, is that what you are referring to?

Russ

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You're correct, but the HS-251 also uses the same chipset.

They're both the same price, so the better memory in the TS-251 is probably the better option.


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Speaking of costs, if one was starting today and making a choice between Sooloos and Roon, I wonder how does one value one's time?? Do you regard it as "meaningless" when it comes to cost... or as an invaluable resource that you can never get back??

Reason I ask is that importing 1,000 Albums into Roon takes approx 10 minutes [during which you can make a tea / coffee]... while importing the same 1,000 Albums into Sooloos will take a minimum of approx 5,000 minutes, [during which the process demands your utmost attention to ensure that the correct metadata is used].

And of course, you need to multiply those Import Times by however many thousand albums you have!!

I wonder how does one value that ~80+ manhour time difference when it comes to evaluating the relative costs entering into either eco-system??... [just to put that in perspective, that is 2 hours a night for 40 nights, for just the first 1,000 Albums]

Likewise, I also wonder how does one value the undoubted differences that exist in the ease-of-use and flexibility of one eco-system over the other??


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