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I've been using the Tidal service for a week and I'm sold - - great catalog and awesome sound. From experience I'd say, leave it to the Scandinavians to do great things even better!
Now, as we all wait for the the Tidal + Sooloss integration, I've been thinking, would the Meridian box be adding anything to the sound, or would it merely serve as a "conduit"?
Would there be any difference, in sound quality, listening to Tidal from a PC/Mac, a dedicated audio component like Electrocompaniet or Meridian Sooloos?
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Pan-dimensional being
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I like it, but I am still having skipping issues on albums downloaded to my mobile Nexus 5. Are other people having this issue?
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I've only used it on my Mac, streaming, no issues, only positives... so far.
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President of the Imperial Galactic Government
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Would there be any difference, in sound quality, listening to Tidal from a PC/Mac, a dedicated audio component like Electrocompaniet or Meridian Sooloos? That's really nothing to do with Tidal as such, it's a hardware question (how good is this device vs. this other device) that's been covered many times. If using a PC/Mac the key is to have bit-perfect output to an external asynchronous DAC of one's choice (be that Meridian or otherwise). Try a Google search of the forum, this has been discussed extensively of the years. Personally I prefer to stay 'in house' with Meridian source equipment as I like the audio presentation and I know that with M's R&D program if it can be improved with a firmware upgrade they will. Now full Tidal integration will be a lot more than just a 'conduit' for use Sooloos users, hanging it properly integrated to compliment our local libraries is key. Regards, Carl
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Don't Panic!
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Would there be any difference, in sound quality, listening to Tidal from a PC/Mac, a dedicated audio component like Electrocompaniet or Meridian Sooloos? Absolutely. Up-sampling / apodizing is likely to make the greatest difference, all other things (i.e. jitter) being the same.
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Pan-dimensional being
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So a 96/24 file will have apodizing applied? I thought apodising was carried out in the upsampling process.
James
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Don't Panic!
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Tidal lossless streaming is 44.1/16, so will be up-sampled. Any 96/24 downloads (do they have a store yet?) will not be up-sampled further.
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Paranoid android
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I wish Meridian would do a beta program for the new SW and I would be in it.  I can't wait for the new SW with Tidal integration.
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OK, so they don't even need to be downloaded to get the Meridian treatment - streaming would be up sampled/apodized as well? Very excellent!!!
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President of the Imperial Galactic Government
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I think VK was saying that in response to the question about Brand X vs Sooloos handling Tidal. When it is enabled in Sooloos you will get upsampling etc.
US/apodizing won't be a feature of the streaming per se.
Rgds,
Nick
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I am not sure if this review has been linked here before. Still it's worth a read for insight and the second from last paragraph. Tidal review Cheers, Chris
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Does anyone use LizTic Music Apps I have it and I have uploaded lossless and HD Audio to my Google Drive and stream it to my iPhone without loss. It works great. I know I don't have a catalog of what Tidal can offer but I do get to put the songs that I enjoy in the cloud and listen at anytime. Steve
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