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On the contrary, it's very well known and well understood that EMI / RFI travels ALONG Unshielded / Unscreened cables.
The EMI does not "interfere" with the Ethernet Data within a Cat X cable or with its timing.
Instead this EMI / RFI then makes its way into the Endpoint, thereby negating the work that Meridian has done to make these devices low EMI devices to start with.
This EMI / RFI can then have a deleterious effect on the Audio performance... which is why Meridian are continuously striving to reduce the EMI / RFI present in all their devices to begin with.
Therefore using freely and cheaply available STP Ethernet cabling is something that all users should strive for, especially if their environments are high RFI.
So, are we to assume that your Cat 5e cabling is UTP then from your lack of response to the questions raised?... [and no, Cat 5e is not necessarily Shielded... it comes in UTP and STP variations.]
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Please tell me where M says STP cable is to be used? If they do, I'm pissed that I missed that If they don't, and I'm sure they don't, then they better be designing the gear for UTP as I'm sure 99.9% of the world is wired with UTP CAT 5E.
As to my wire, I'm not home so can't say but I'll bet I'm in that 99.9% group.
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Maybe this SpeakerLink will help... especially the what cables do I need bit.
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Damn this GISO GB is good...
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Network cables UTP are fine, it's SpeakerLink that requires STP leads. Chris 
No 18 in the Hall of fame  I have simple tastes; I am content to settle for the best: GIK monster bass panels, rear wall. QNAP TVS 471i3. Roon into DSP5200SE via 210/ 218 zone... Explorer 2. Bluesound Pulse 2, Mini & Flex. 596v1, 518, Foxsat HD, Sony BDP, Pioneer 5090, 2 Chromecast's for LRB videos. MS200 to F80 for a Roon zone
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Network cables UTP are fine, it's SpeakerLink that requires STP leads. Chris  Just as I thought. No SpeakerLink cables in my system. So one would conclude the LAN isolator is doing something very special ...
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This is from Parky's link. You can use any Ethernet cable as long as it is CAT5/6 and features STP (Shielded Twisted Pair) Is it not possible to wire it using shielded cable just to compare? Meridian are up to speed on magnetic isolation, that's the development of the ID41 from ID40., isolation. I'm not saying the GISO doesn't work.
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Which exact switch panel do you have ? Thanks Robert
800v3/218/271/8k.2/5k5s  /5kC/DSP3200/Reviver/ TT-ELP/Graham Slee Revelation/Trinnov Altitude 32/OPPO 205 __Ayon/HB/Shunyata/Miltzow -- power cables, __Ayon/Jungson/Miltzow --analog, Miltzow-- digital, __Vortex/WMA ,
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Which variant of the GISO did you select? DS or GB?
Rgds, Nick
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The differences are 2 or 4 transformers-means 2 or 4 pair of data /channels. The transformer have the same specs independent on the model.
Do you know how many channels M needs on the network?
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Is it not possible to wire it using shielded cable just to compare? Not sure I understand the above point. STP is shielded so how do you compare with shielded? Confused, Chris 
No 18 in the Hall of fame  I have simple tastes; I am content to settle for the best: GIK monster bass panels, rear wall. QNAP TVS 471i3. Roon into DSP5200SE via 210/ 218 zone... Explorer 2. Bluesound Pulse 2, Mini & Flex. 596v1, 518, Foxsat HD, Sony BDP, Pioneer 5090, 2 Chromecast's for LRB videos. MS200 to F80 for a Roon zone
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Just trying some STP between my switch and MS200 and it sounds great, but it always did. I will live with it for a while and change back somtime in the future to see if I notice a degradation, as I think that's the only way I will be able to tell if anything has changed. Game on, Chris 
No 18 in the Hall of fame  I have simple tastes; I am content to settle for the best: GIK monster bass panels, rear wall. QNAP TVS 471i3. Roon into DSP5200SE via 210/ 218 zone... Explorer 2. Bluesound Pulse 2, Mini & Flex. 596v1, 518, Foxsat HD, Sony BDP, Pioneer 5090, 2 Chromecast's for LRB videos. MS200 to F80 for a Roon zone
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