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ISB #218548 2014-08-10 01:03
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Originally Posted by "ISB"
...high quality audio in a car environment.
IMO, mutually exclusive.

The dynamic range which you can obtain in a car is just not sufficient for high quality audio as anyone who listens to R3 in the car in the UK will probably testify. You just can't hear quiet passages. If you put in compression to fix this, is it high quality afterwards?

I'm not saying that you can't get a "nice" sound in a car and I am a motoring enthusiast myself (see avatar) but high quality?


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Dumb question, are you allowed to wear open backed headphones whilst driving (or does Nanny not approve)?

(playing music for the literal)

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Originally Posted by MalcolmW
Originally Posted by "ISB"
...high quality audio in a car environment.
IMO, mutually exclusive.

The dynamic range which you can obtain in a car is just not sufficient for high quality audio as anyone who listens to R3 in the car in the UK will probably testify. You just can't hear quiet passages. If you put in compression to fix this, is it high quality afterwards?

I'm not saying that you can't get a "nice" sound in a car and I am a motoring enthusiast myself (see avatar) but high quality?

Well, I could have phrased that better, I suppose. High quality in a car environment would certainly differ from high quality in an environment with a far lower noise floor. So, high in a relative sense.

One benefit a car environment has is that the audio supplier can optimize their system for a mostly defined acoustical space as opposed to the home environment where the audio supplier has to choose between trying to be robust to diverse unknown environments, or leave the tuning to the user etc.


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Those of us with high(er) quality car audio can tell the difference from lower quality - and that is why we spend more money or time choosing what we like. The differences are huge and if you spend many hours at a time in a car those differences make a journey pleasurable - or more pleasurable - than or not.
I am surprised that some Meridian owners don't believe these things.


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I got bored with the poor SQ in my Seat so I've started taking a portable iPod dock- sounds much better!

Next long journey I'll get the inverter out a put the F80 in the back seat (haven't thought through the radio bit yet).

Make do and mend...

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My favourite car soundtrack was my V6 and a nice exhaust growl. The 1.8T is nice, but it is to road cars what this years F1 cars are to the real ones we had before wink


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My favorite feature of my 2006 S4 is the wonderful V8 soundtrack. I wish the car was less well sound isolated from the outside in this regard. The Blowse audio system; not so much.


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I ended up buying a 2009 XF S. I got close to buying the Lexus but I just couldn't do it. I think it was the look of it that put me off. The B&W in the Jag, with a few tiny adjustments, sounds really quite good. I've found my happy and its a damn fine car to boot! I reckon the M in the Jag would sound excellent, certainly way better than in the Freelander I heard. I'll have to wait a few years for that to be affordable though.


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New Jag XE launch, helicoptered into London. Mail article
The very last words on the spec sheet "Meridian Hi Fi". Chris smile


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Reviving an old thread, but I suppose it might be indicative of how little interest there seems to be in M's in-car systems. Anyway, as per topic, HiFi+ has a brief comparison of the high-end car manufacturers' offerings from the Geneva Salon de l'Auto here. Meridian's performance was judged a bit "meh", but what was interesting is the report that the company accept there is room for improvements and that these will be forthcoming "soon".


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There is a report on one of the Range Rover forums which says that the high end Meridian ICE system is no longer available as an option on 2016 cars. Whether this is true (car configurators are notoriously inaccurate) remains to be seen.


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Re MalcolmW
I recall the thread you refer to was US related, but I could be wrong.

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