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Yes, enabled rears (M6s). Once set, I'm assuming the 861 doesn't turn it off. I'm using Oppo for streaming from a NAS ( music and video) plus Netflix.
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If you have an Oppo (bdp-103/105) you have a negative audio delay to set up to -100ms. This makes it possible to eliminate the automatic audio delay added due to the video processing (e.g., 70ms).
/H
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2: 861v4.8+ID40, HD621, DSP5200SL (BRG), DSP5200HCSL, DSP3100s, AC11, D2500, Roku 3: Plex, Sonos.
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Hi,
May I add a EBA question?
I have seen Richard's video. Have I understood correctly that treble is delayed more and bass less?
With the coming firmware upgrade I will be able to run multichannel EBA. I will try integrate a non M active sub. What opinions do fellow HH have about that? This sub is running at a limited frequency range 40/50 Hz crossover.
Cheers
/Frode
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As far as I understand EBA only works with EBA enabled Meridian DSP speakers.
So you will not be able to implement it with the active analogue sub
Tony
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I know that EBA is for specified DSP speakers only. But in the G65 I am aloud to combine EBA speakers with an analogue sub, nothing said about the result.
/Frode
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Regardless of whether EBA is switched on or off?
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I know that EBA is for specified DSP speakers only. But in the G65 I am aloud to combine EBA speakers with an analogue sub, nothing said about the result. This is the sort of thing the forthcoming processor firmware will automatically disallow/warn.
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As I understand it EBA puts a delay on the higher frequencies so that they will arrive to the listener at the same time as the bass which is naturally delayed due to the nature of bass drivers. This results in �a unified value of circa 25ms� delay. Therefore with video there will be a lip sync issue of 25 ms
But this can't be solved with a video delay as VK says:
�video delay is virtually non-existent in consumer video processors.�
But video players add a delay to the audio to sync it with the delay that they put into the video due to the processing time. Could M encourage video player makers to have an option to eliminate or reduce the audio delay so that they would be compatible with M SE speakers? Seems like a simple software option to me?
AlternatelyThane says:
�If you have an Oppo (bdp-103/105) you have a negative audio delay to set up to -100ms. This makes it possible to eliminate the automatic audio delay added due to the video processing (e.g., 70ms).�
Does this mean that I can just buy the Oppo 103 as my video and completely solve my DVD lipsync problem?
I believe that this Oppo also has Netflix. Does this also solve the Netflix lipsync problem?
That would rap it up for me as that is the extent of my video input.
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