Thanks Carl, good to know, we have some british chaps flying here at times (my club is LEFM, near Segovia, about 100 km north of Madrid).

BTW and related to the 'landing' my comments were more about why the pilots did not react -and act- when altitude was enough to recover situation, something a glider's pilot background would help achieve IMO.

Of course a (safe?) sea landing was not the best idea for them...

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