Here's an interesting thought.
Whilst I can't imagine any of us expecting the new G65 to be on par sonically with an 861v8, at it's price, it's not THAT much more than a s/h 861v4. Sure, it can't incorporate an ID40 card, but it could take an audio stream from say an MC200 via Meridian Link.

So this could be an interesting alternative for those of us who don't have the dosh for an 861v8, but are considering an 861v4.

I'd love to hear the two side by side.

861v4/ID40/LPS, HD621, Roon, BAT VK-600se, Impulse Ta'us. Director/Heed Canamp with HD600s.