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CP compared it to 818 version 1.
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Indeed, the 818v1 also has a preamp section, just like the v2. But I never used it. As a generic DAC and Sooloos endzone it is also well worth its price.
Have you seen my review? I think the 818 makes for the best digital playback short of the Rowland Aeris. Yes, read your review. Thanks CP!
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Indeed, the 818v1 also has a preamp section, just like the v2. But I never used it. So how did you exactly use the 818? SPDIF out into a DAC or something else?
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He basically used it as an Audio Endpoint and DAC as part of a Meridian Digital Streaming system (i.e in the same way you would use an MS600). He ran balanced analogue outputs to his Jeff Roland pre-amp, feeding music to his high end, non-Meridian system.
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Kerry
I read the review
To me it isn't clear what he's doing but what you are saying would be the other alternative other than using the 818 as a preamp.
I find it interesting that no reviewer to my knowledge has reviewed the 818 as a preamp in a Sooloos system. Why didn't CP try it that way? Eliminating a piece in the chain seems to be the way to go unless the 818 as a preamp isn't up to the best.
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FWIW - I had an 818v2 on home demo in a 2.0 preamp/Sooloos setup (courtesy of Rob S). Was a very easy setup to get Sky+ and Dune running through and the ID41 driving the Sooloos library.
The latter clearly sounded fantastic but I would say that the 2.0 sound from satellite was also very good. I didn't get chance to put any PC or analogue through.
If I was building a [2 channel] system today I would have no hesitation to build around an 818 preamp.
Rgds,
Nick
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If I was building a [2 channel] system today I would have no hesitation to build around an 818 preamp. In a minimal source system, do you think the 818 is significantly better than no preamp, i.e. direct source into DSP's from another dedicated Sooloos source such as MSxxx?
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I'm not sure if I could totally give up on Trifield, but I would love to see M produce a 'Super' MS200, comprising of the ID41 driving a SpeakerlInk output utilising the jitter reduction knowledge used in the latest upgrades. 
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?.., but I would love to see M produce a 'Super' MS200, comprising of the ID41 driving a SpeakerlInk output utilising the jitter reduction knowledge used in the latest upgrades. Surely much of the magic of the ID40/41 is down to its host, ie 861/808/818?
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Ok guys, we are going round in circles this 'ID40/ID41' based box was debated at length in this very thread, that's how we got on to the 818 in the first place. Please just read the older posts thread.
Regards,
Carl
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In a minimal source system, do you think the 818 is significantly better than no preamp, i.e. direct source into DSP's from another dedicated Sooloos source such as MSxxx? Good question. If minimal means no other sources than Sooloos then one could argue for MS600. However, upgraditis would hinder my listening pleasure and I'd have to put an 818 in regardless.
Rgds,
Nick
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