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What additional qualities (not capabilities, e.g Trifield) do centre speakers provide aver a stereo pair? Center image is vastly improved with a proper center speaker if the source has a discrete center channel. The discussion talks about needing to match the centre to the fronts when, in most domestic cases, there will be a compromise, meaning a horizontal centre with the front tweeters being at different levels. True and unfortunate.
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This is less of a problem though with M equipment. At HH2 Dr. Rhonda specifically dismissed the possibility of serious damage to the image providing you could get close to similar heights for the front 3 and/or the use of DSP.
For example M's own demos (although not always set up correctly e.g. Bristol last year) tend to feature 7200HC with either 7200 or 8000s.
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Meridialien,
Perhaps. I have not used a horizontal center in years and never a Meridian center.
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Thanks everyone - food for thought.
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Gianni I have a front setup of 7200's L&R spaced about 3 metres apart and a 5200VC centre. I much prefer Direct setting over Trifield for music listening because, as has been alluded to in other comments, the 5200 centre is not in the same league as the 7200's and Trifield sound is slightly more confused than direct. Unfortunately I do not have the space for a 7200 centre as it would intrude on the height of my screen and a horizontal centre is not an option. The 7200's do provide a substantial and engaging soundstage on their own. Just my thoughts  Rod
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Is anyone using the DSP7200s hard up against a wall? Does this compromise their performance?
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I had a pair of 7200s up against a wall, I didn't hear any big differences with them being close to the wall or pulled out by 50cm. I guess the room correction on the 861 had played a part in this, alot would depend on your particular room acoustics IMHO
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If you stack them against the wall it could be beneficiary to have some absorpion behind the speaker to get cleaner midrange etc.
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What result do you want from your system? More bass? Cleaner sound?
I actually think you should be careful with going to the 8000s - they are tremendous speakers - but they can put out A LOT of bass. Usually thats a good thing but depending on your room, you might really need to control it. The speakers do have the boundary settings built in which will help, but the best way to get results out of them in my experience is the MRC. Given that you already have the 7000s on the fronts and the 5000 series HC speaker (the 7000s are supposedly close to those in terms of performance), your front seems pretty well matched. Going with 2 8000s could highlight the difference between them and the HC speaker.
My vote is to go in stages and go with the v4 with the MRC. Then see how you like it and then when the upgrade bug hits again in a year or two go ahead and get those bad boy 8000s. Maybe a year or two later you look for a 7200HC and then you move the 861 to v6.
When you get MRC be sure to turn off the boundary controls in your speakers and then run the MRC. See the wiki for hints and tips. +1 here. Stay away from G68. That is all I will say, 861v4 over the G68 all day, every day.
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