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Well it is digital sound processing so it can change! LOL
Merry Christmas everyone...or should I say ditto?
Cheers,
Ron
HT: 568.2mm (Revelation One filter), 518x2, SB3, Bryston 7BSTx3, 8BST, Aerial 10T, CC3, SW12(Qty2) w/SVS AS-EQ1, MK Tripole x4. JVC RS1u, DVDO Duo, Oppo 103 w/Vanity103HD, Sony PS3, VIP 3D Theatre, Acer H5360. Logitech Ultimate Remote and Hub.
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Main system: Cable, Apple TV, HD621, G68D, AC11, 218, DSP7200SE (L+R), DSP3200 (L+R Rear)
2nd system: Cable, Apple TV, MC200, HD621, 568.2, M3100 (L+R)
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Are all these files still downloadable from somewhere or does one need to have those saved from before? I'm afraid that they are no longer on line since the apodising debacle. I'm sure a friendly HH'er might have a copy on their PC. Richard
Main system; 861v8 ID41, DSP8000SEU fronts with DSP5500 centre and DSP7000 rears (all in lovely silver) 504, HD621
Second system 861v4 ID40 LPS, G98DH, 504, HD621, 2x DSP5200 with DSP5200 centre
MD600 tucked away in study. Lots of other Meridian!
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This is very concerning... A good friend with newer kit than me has told me that in the process of trying C00044 and then going back to C00055 (from the latest firmware) the uploader program reports that C00055 is for G68 861 AND 568 I have to ask myself why Meridian didn't do all us 568 users with broken Trifield a favour and release this for the 568 which it would seem they intended. Broken promises? I'm not very impressed TBH. Very concerning....
Main system; 861v8 ID41, DSP8000SEU fronts with DSP5500 centre and DSP7000 rears (all in lovely silver) 504, HD621
Second system 861v4 ID40 LPS, G98DH, 504, HD621, 2x DSP5200 with DSP5200 centre
MD600 tucked away in study. Lots of other Meridian!
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This all assumes that updating the single module does not unbalance the firmware where processing is shared/distributed between two or more modules. Updating one module without updating its counterpart(s) *may* result in incomplete processing. Of course, all this is utter BS as bits are bits so the sound cannot change...  Light blue touch paper and retreat until next year... Merry Christmas everyone! It magically "unbalances" it really good though  The changes since late 861V3/568.2mm are basically MRC which is on seperate DSPs. All changes since then have been minor sonics wise (DSPC's job) which is why it works. If there were major differences we'd have issues.
- Fiddler (IMHO)
If you think listening to music is fun, try learning an instrument.
HT: G61RSL, 4x5K, 5.5KHC, 2xSC6000, Transporter, HD621, Philips BDP7501 4K, Tivo, 65" LG OLED 4K C6
Computer: Foobar2000, 5K, Mojo, HiFiMan HE1000 V2
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Interesting information !
So far I have refrained from doing any firmware updates after 1.44 (G68). This because the use of my system is 99% Blu-Ray via the HD621.
My reasoning was that because apodizing is done in the HD621, it would be no effect to update the G68.
Reading the postings above I now assume I am incorrect. Let's see where this goes !
G68J, HD621, ...
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That was my thinking as well Robbo. I'm in the same boat here only using HD621 as source. But the DSPC affects/imparts the sound in a major way. It sounds more "compressed" in c00055 than c00044.
This is also why I mentioned the 808.x directly into DSP8000 speakers in the beginning post. We need to get Trifield/Cinema/Discrete as untainted and fullscale as possible. The highrez source already does a perfect job of telling us what was on the recording; the cues, microdetails and presence. This must not get lost on the way and this puts DSPC in a central hot spot.
DSP8000SE, DSP7200SEHC, DSP5200SE sides, DSP7200SE rears, 861v8, 210, Sim2 Ultranero 4, Stewart Cinecurve 2.35:1, XEIT CM-5E Anamorphic lens, Dune HD Duo Cinema 8K and Wireworld Platinum 48G HDMI -> UHD722 -> Shunyata Omega Ethernet. Shunyata/Furutech power-cables/filters. SR Master Fuse@861v8. Uptone Etherregen with 10MHz OCXO clock.
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I just changed the DSPC in my G68 from c00052 to c00044. Wow. Big improvement, IMO. More presence. More natural instrument timbres. More precise imaging. Lots of resolution while still sounding relaxed. Very happy.
Bryon
iMac -> Sonos -> Empirical Audio reclocker -> G68 (modded) -> Pass Labs XA30.5 amp -> Focal 1027be speakers + JL Audio F113 sub. Pioneer Elite PRO 151FD 60" display.
G68 mods... Custom power supply, Audiocom Superclock 4, Rubycon capacitors, WBT Nextgen connectors, ultra low noise op amps, analog output buffer, DSPC c00044, Revelation One filter.
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... I might also Try setting the D5K5 as small, just to try it, easy to switch back if you don't like the results Just came across a note I jotted down from your post above, about setting 5500s to small for music in my setup. I had not acted on it. When Marc Koval recently visited to install new tweeters,software and tweak my setup, he tried a lot of various setups for music, and settled on small for the 5500s, with my 2 15" subs split 1 to 5500 vertical center and 1 to 5500 rears, with 6000s fronts full range. A belated thanks for your good advice, especially when it answers the unasked question.
James
NC1: 861v8, ID41, 218, 251(to outdoors), DSP8000SEUG, 7200SEC, DSP520 rears, Apple TV, DirecTV, Oppo BD103, QNAP251, Roon
NC2-M7005, Triad Silver Speakers,Acurus Amps
FL1: 861v4, ID40, 218, MS200, DSP8000SEs, DSP7200SEC, DSP5000s, DirecTv, AppleTv, OppoBD103, QNAP469, Roon
FL2: Marantz 7005, 251, M60s,60C,33s, Oppo BDP-93,MS200, Roon
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Glad I could help in some small way!!! Like all these things though, it always comes down to the specific Room, Configuration.......and above all.......the preferences of the User Enjoy your "new" system
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Really is remarkable how much better it sounds with C00044. Last night I watched Super 8 and the train crash was jaw dropping amazing. My surround channels have never sounded better too.
HT: 568.2mm (Revelation One filter), 518x2, SB3, Bryston 7BSTx3, 8BST, Aerial 10T, CC3, SW12(Qty2) w/SVS AS-EQ1, MK Tripole x4. JVC RS1u, DVDO Duo, Oppo 103 w/Vanity103HD, Sony PS3, VIP 3D Theatre, Acer H5360. Logitech Ultimate Remote and Hub.
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Knows where his towel is
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I'm a bit late to this party but I've finally found the time to have a play. I have a G68XXV with all analogue ATC active speakers. I also agree that the C00044 DSP gives a more "hang in the air" type of sound than the c00052 which I was using. I settled on Width = 1.3 and Centre Depth = +1.5 after testing on a small ensemble (Clannad) and a big chorus (Verdi opera). I might play a bit more yet. No error messages (apart from the initial WinFup warning) have come up. Overall, a pretty good retrograde step. 
Malcolm
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