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Some people like what is familiar whereas others crave novelty and change. But aside from that, is there a danger that the new format could ghetoise us (i.e. we only regularly look at one area and not another)? This is similar to people who only watch one TV channel or listen to one radio channel and never visit any others. The outcome is to diminish us as a community. But perhaps that is not important?
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It's taken me a day or 2 to get used to the new layouts but I'm quite liking it now.
My bookmark takes me to the discussion overview so I can see which section has new posts and then I can go through them in sequence (or ignore OT if not much time)- and get in the correct 'frame of mind' for each one.
And I even read the Sooloos forum - even though I don't have any kit (yet). Just because you don't have the hardware doesn't mean you're not allowed to read and comment.
Thanks for the good work,
Chris
Lounge/Cinema, Trinnov, DSP8000XE, 4x 320.2 in-ceiling, M6 rear, 2x DSW.2 Roon Nucleus+ and 320.2 in-ceiling in many rooms (KEF in-ceiling in bathrooms) Spare: DSP5000, 598, 562v2, 500Mk2, 518, 519, 504, 101B, M3, 861v4, 800 DVD, MS600, MC200
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Don't Panic!
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There's always the "Watched Forums" feature...
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My two cents.
I was always nagged to split forums and always resisted. But I was always on the fence if I should or not.
Part of it was how much work was involved. Buy they are willing to put in the work. And I'm amazed how much effort has been going into the forum.
Another was maintaining links from other sites, google search. I tried to always avoid moving stuff. But I think Duncs has a handle on that which is best in the long run.
I think it's up to the moderators and Duncs to decide what's right. If they wish to poll for opinions, it's their choice. There are lots of things to factor in from the moderating side of things.
That said these guys are smart and they will figure out what works and what doesn't. You won't know until you start trying stuff out and I think it's a good first pass.
I like Sooloos split out because I don't care much for that topic. And I like how Restaurant stuff was split out too. I, for the most part, read two forums, Meridian discussion and Meridian for sale (private owners). Now with less chatter of topics of less interest to me.
It may draw more folks in. I always watch the "Number Viewing" on the forums and it has gone steadily gone up since Duncs took over, so they are doing something right.
Wiki is awesome.
- Fiddler (IMHO)
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Working on the ultimate question
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I am not happy with how this forum is run right now. I am afraid to voice any opinion for fear of being banned. Just not any fun any more.
Even this post scares me and I am a long time member. I shouldn't feel this way.
Plus Erwin's tweaks have nothing to do with the forum moderators so where is there liability? I think you guys are over thinking this. Worry warts!
I like the free speech argument.
Ron
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President of the Imperial Galactic Government
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Free speech is one thing but Liability for abbetting a breach of copyright is another. In the UK right now a youth who set up a web site in his bedroom at home, that allowed for the free viewing of copyright material has lost his court case against extradition to the USA. He copied nothing but facilitated others to do so. (Scary) In light of this I understand that there has to be rules and it is up to moderators to set them. It is not fair to let them take risks for us. We all get this great discussion forum for free and I hope appreciate it. The facts are, we cant have everything however much we may feel that we should. Just my thoughts, thanks for all the work that goes on behind the scenes. Chris 
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He designed his own filter...it is his copyrighted code not M's we are talking about.
My point was about how the forum is run. I am sick of seeing post deleted for silly reasons.
Last edited by Ronomy; 2012-01-14 17:49. Reason: enough said in the past about Erwin...my post was just beating it to death and i think we already did that.
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Ronomy, you have been a respected member of this forum for a long time and I have always admired what you have to say. For that reason it concerns me that you are upset about where we are now.
But Chris' point above is worryingly true; watching a naive young man being threatened by billion-dollar corporations using a law which supposes that the legal power of one jurisdiction can reach into another for commercial, not moral, reasons sickens me.
I read the unmoderated comment before it was changed. I feel it was ill-informed and potentially breached the rules of the forum as modified and promulgated post the filter-gate debacle. For that reason and the concerns about legal liability going beyond common sense and decency, I support what the moderators did in this case.
We here know that this is probably one of the most sane and friendly hi-fi forums on the internet. Credit for that must go to the moderators, administrators and members. We members must be circumspect in our opinions in order to preserve the culture which we have created. Better that we allow a little self-moderation than have it enforced on us.
In the spirit of Spinaltap, I would like to confirm that I am not involved in the corrupt theft of a global sport.
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Hi Gianni,
I thought about what you said and realize I have been so happy with the way my system sounds that I was thinking more about my feelings and not the moderators wishes on this topic.
You are correct about the civilized way this forum has been over the years under George and we should keep it on the same track under the new management.
I suppose conversation about this topic can be taken elsewhere. I still feel bad for Erwin being banned. He is a great guy and programmer and offered a lot to the folks on this forum.
Sorry for upsetting everyone that thinks differently.
Enough said from me on this.
Ron
Last edited by Ronomy; 2012-01-14 21:19.
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All clubs have rules which members agree to abide by. Most clubs are run by "officers", volunteers and amateurs who give a great deal of time and effort for the benefit of others.
If people do not like the rules then they should not join. If they do not like how the club is run, including how the rules are applied, then they can become officers themselves. Otherwise the club officers deserve gratitude and support.
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Just a thought.
Now that you have commited to split forums by topic.
What about splitting the "Music and Movies" out.
I think it would generate more interest if not locked into a single sticky. Stickies never work that good because you get immune to looking at them because they are always there. You have to go out of your way to look at it.
It may generate "Non Meridian" folks to the site (which may be good or bad).
But I find this a unique group of folks in taste for things. So it could be fun.
Just a thought.
- Fiddler (IMHO)
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