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Anyone try different cables? Are the changes noticable and worth it? I am very keen on hearing opinions before I rorder cables for my entire Meridian system. Thanks.
Silence is overrated! 861v4.8, HD621, DSP8000's, DSP5000HC, 4x DSP5000 mkIII, D2500.
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what cables can you re-order ? I was not aware there were others than Meridian ?
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tony
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For DSP speakers, try some proper 75Ohm CI cables and 75Ohm connectors - I think you'd be surprised at the difference over most digital interconnects. For analogue interconnects, I actually prefer to use the same as digital/video interconnects, but I've heard that other manufacturers with quite warm sounding cables can produce good results.
Mark
Mark G68, baby Genelecs, Humax Foxsat, Oppo+Vanity93, Toshiba HD-A35, Pioneer CLD-925 + Meridian 519, various other random bits and bobs Got a black G08.2 you want to sell?
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Does anyone know if there are other suppliers for Meridian M & S cables, already made up in varying lengths ? Thanks
Alan
Meridian 861v4, HD621, 598, 2x5500's, 5500HC, 2x 5000's, Pioneer Elite Plasma & BDP-05 Blu Ray
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Mudge, Are the Meridian and Synergistic NOT true 75 ohm shielded and terminated?
Silence is overrated! 861v4.8, HD621, DSP8000's, DSP5000HC, 4x DSP5000 mkIII, D2500.
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Chances are they're not, true 75Ohm connectors are very rare, I think Tag and Canare come closest. The Meridian ones are probably quite good though - but having heard the difference that the 'best' can make, it's quite disturbing what we put up with.
Mark
Mark G68, baby Genelecs, Humax Foxsat, Oppo+Vanity93, Toshiba HD-A35, Pioneer CLD-925 + Meridian 519, various other random bits and bobs Got a black G08.2 you want to sell?
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plsssssssssssssssssss different sound while using MHR I don't think so - it either works or it doesn't. Jitter don't come into it - same with dolby dig or DTS - they are packed based protocols that do not suffer from jitter. CD (pcm) - fine - I accept cables 'could' make a difference but once its into the 861 or 568 its golden when passed to the DSP's.
Chris
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Chris, Jitter triggers the error correction in those transport methods, and they are frame, not packet based (a common mistake). The error correction is audible - or rather the lack of error correction is audible.
Mark
Mark G68, baby Genelecs, Humax Foxsat, Oppo+Vanity93, Toshiba HD-A35, Pioneer CLD-925 + Meridian 519, various other random bits and bobs Got a black G08.2 you want to sell?
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Meridian demo-ed their equipment at the 2001 CEDIA using Transparent cable. I don't know if Meridian thinks Transparent cables are better than the Meridian branded van den hul cables, or whether it was some kind of co-marketing relationship. However, I believe Transparent makes a special Meridian digital/comms cable, though it won't be inexpensive.
If you do hear a difference in cables don't tell me. I really don't want to get on the cable merry-go-round again!
[This message has been edited by Frank (edited 12-18-2003).]
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Yes apologies Mudge I wrote that having just watched SWAT and imbibing a non-trivial number of beers (imagine the frame of mind) - I'm sure your right!
Can we at least agree changing the comms cable won't improve the sound ?( I too am desperate not to go down the cable changing route).
And yes Canare make excellent crimp based cables and connectors with 'true' 75 ohm performance. I was suprised to see the Meridian cables using solder as that is an inferior method to crimp.
Chris
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2 Meridian 7200SE Speakers, 17 Meridian DSP750 Speakers, 8 Meridian DSP730 Speakers, 8 Meridian DSW-600 Subwoofers, 3 Meridian DSP640.2 Speakers, 24 Meridian DSP320 Speakers, 3 Meridian 271 Digital Cinema Controller, 7 Meridian 218, 1 Meridian 818 v3, 1 Trinnov Altitude 32 Processor, 1 Trinnov Altitude 16 Processor, Barco Freya+
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Here we go again!
All I can say is my own personal observations are there was no difference in cables between some expensive digital interconnect and radio shack home theater cables. Although I havent heard these cables.
Best regards, Jerry Main System: 861v6, DSP8000s in corners, DSP7000s Center and Sides, 1-9 humans.
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Guys,
Technically cables do make a difference - but it's small enough to be right at the limits of our perception. So for some people it's obvious and others not there at all, we're all different after all. Whats more with MHR, DD and DTS you can't hear the errors as with PCM, it's what you can't hear with the wrong cable that makes the difference.
Changing comm cables should have no effect whatsoever. If you want to start chopping and changing cables out, see if you can get them on a home loan first.
Mark
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