Originally Posted by Joelc
George:

Although I appreciate the response I do not know where to take this thread but do note the following:


1. I am complete agreement that this issue is extremely complex.

2. I am still curious as to your comment that it is *wrong* to apply EQ to the signal that has / is exiting the processor for a number of reaons...and in thinking about, this would suggest that all the very smart people at Audyssey, Dirac. QSC, Trinnov, etc. are all wrong...and, a related point and as you note, because there are either few / no pre/pros that can account for multiple subwoofers how would one calibrate mltiple subwoofers and their differential EQ.

3. There is a counter arguement to that you present here that I have received from a knowledgeable source but do not want to misrepresent or post his thinking without him being present....I will therefore attempt to get him to jump in and join this most interesting discussion.


Over to you with much thanks for continuing the dialog..

A lot of the devices you mention can work inserted before volume on systems that permit it. It does not mean they won't work at all on variable outputs. I can assure you MRC runs on Fixed level inputs internally then applies volume. And they may well be aware of different volumes. But how does an eq know if you're playing softly with loud passage or playing loud with a soft passage. It makes the problem much harder. And I like I said earlier Meridian does some tweaking based on volume and that will throw off any equalizer inserted after.

EQ Loop goes before volume, it's been done that way for eons.

A lot of what I throw out is THEORY. In practice is another story. How much effect in practice for each thing I'm not sure. And I don't know what was accounted for.

Multiple subs are extremely complex. And my opening statement stands. It's what you do with the signal after it leaves the Meridian box will dominate what you hear.


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