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FYI, my room is approx 20ft long * 11ft wide * 8ft high. I sit approx 18ft away from my front speakers. My rear speakers are only just behind me, but about 4ft away to the side. Should this have much impact on the speakers that would be suitable for me?


Originally Posted by Ronnie
However, if feeding the D6k's / D72k's with 16/44 material, from a Media Player or regular Cd Player, then the Performance Edge goes back to the D72k's (IMHO), due to the Apodizing / Upsampling in the D72k's

I assume this would not apply to my scenarion (via HD621 and 861v4)?

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I agree that 5500 and 7000 are much the same. Better WAF only for the 7000.


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Originally Posted by Dave02
Originally Posted by Ian
It may or may not be relevant, but most(all?) newer models offer upsampling of inputs and some offering apodising on that. So a cd etc source connected directly will benefit.

I assume this wouldn't benefit me if everything is connected via a HD621 then through 861v4?

Correct it's all bypassed in the DSP speaker when hooked to a Meridian Processor because the Processor already upsamples it.
Same thing with HD621 and 861v6. The upsampling/apodizing in 861v6 (or v4) is bypassed when you use the HD621.



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Originally Posted by Dave02
FYI, my room is approx 20ft long * 11ft wide * 8ft high. I sit approx 18ft away from my front speakers. My rear speakers are only just behind me, but about 4ft away to the side. Should this have much impact on the speakers that would be suitable for me?


Originally Posted by Ronnie
However, if feeding the D6k's / D72k's with 16/44 material, from a Media Player or regular Cd Player, then the Performance Edge goes back to the D72k's (IMHO), due to the Apodizing / Upsampling in the D72k's

I assume this would not apply to my scenarion (via HD621 and 861v4)?
Hi Dave
Can you elaborate on what Source you typically use for Music and Movies and also if you have Upsampling and HS Enabled on both the HD621 and 861


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I would not want to criticise people's comments about the 6ks for one moment: they are very accomplished and natural-sounding speakers. But I would just add a note of caution about the availability of spare parts and the cost of repairs, just in case something went wrong in a year or two. And I would add the same comment to any consideration of the 5ks, which are also wonderful speakers.


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I suspect that may be true for any model not current. if not now, soon. DSP33, DSP5500, DSP7000. The risky part in these is the digital boards, Everything else can be repaired/replaced (amps, power supplies and drivers) by a good service house or Meridian.


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Originally Posted by Dave02
FYI, my room is approx 20ft long * 11ft wide * 8ft high. I sit approx 18ft away from my front speakers. My rear speakers are only just behind me, but about 4ft away to the side. Should this have much impact on the speakers that would be suitable for me?

I assume this would not apply to my scenarion (via HD621 and 861v4)?

It moreso depends on how far away from the walls and corners you can place your speakers. You will get reinforced, modal bass if you're in the corners. MRC can help but it won't eliminate all problems. If at all possible, I would try and move my listening position farther away from the back wall or, at least, heavily dampen the back wall with acoustical absorption.


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Originally Posted by Ronnie
Hi Dave
Can you elaborate on what Source you typically use for Music and Movies and also if you have Upsampling and HS Enabled on both the 621 and 861

I haven't received the HD621 yet (ordered it last Thursday, but it's delayed slightly due to snow), but would expect to use upsampling (I'm assuming it will give a positive effect). Not sure what HS is.

On a daily basis, my main source is my Humax Foxsat HDR for TV. I don't have any speakers on my display so use my system for everything. For movies I'm using an Oppo 83. This is also my source for CDs, but am rarely playing them now. I also have a TViX HD M-6500A which I use for streaming my DVDs (Oppo used for Blu Rays).


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Originally Posted by Dollar2
It moreso depends on how far away from the walls and corners you can place your speakers. You will get reinforced, modal bass if you're in the corners. MRC can help but it won't eliminate all problems. If at all possible, I would try and move my listening position farther away from the back wall or, at least, heavily dampen the back wall with acoustical absorption.


My front left and right speakers are about 2ft away from the sides and rear wall (although there is also a bookcase behind one speaker between it and the wall, so only about 1 ft space). Moving the listening position is not practical as I listen to everything in the main living room in the house and it would not fit with other furniture.

FYI, my existing plan would be to buy font left and right, plus a centre speaker. I don't see an investment in floor standing speakers worthwhile for my rears at present, as they'd be stuck very close to a sofa and therefore would not have the space they need.

I'm currently using Cabasse 5 Io speakers + Cabasse Jupiter subwoofer which I have loved for years and the Meridian 861 has given them a new life, but the 861 has also given me a taste for more! To start with I would probably use my existing rears, but if I were to upgrade them I would expect to need wall mounted speakers.

Beyond DSPs I would consider some good analogue speakers and have been wondering how something like the Kef 203/2 would compare to the DSP range. I'm leaning towards the idea of Meridian, but haven't heard anything yet. One of the problems of buying secondhand is that it's difficult to try out first.


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For rears you could try M33 actives. Easily wall mounted with the Meridian sound signiture.
You could mount them High and pointing at your listening position, which is what a friend does and it sounds great.
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I would put 8000.2 at the top!I must say that the 8000.2 is a big improvement over the D8K, it is not just the possibility of SL that sets them apart sonically the NEW 8000.2 is far better in every aspect, a fact that has been overlooked as M is not doing a big deal out of the new D8K. I would be fair to rename the 8000.2 to 8200 but I guess this decision was not taken because they look the same visually.


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