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Dune is tweaking the UI. But as it stands now it is practical and functional so there is really no need for better UI.

I will be upgrading to the newest Dune sigma (unlike my "modular" G68 )

Thanks Bill. But is the real claim to fame of the new Dune simply better scaling? I have a radiance XE so Im happy with the scaling.

Why scale, every source should output native framerate (or at least select that). Even HDI did not understand that in the beginning. It is a pain in the neck to go into a setup menu to change output frame rate.
I too have a radiance an rather use that to covert framerates and resolutions than the sigma chipset defaults..

Scaling is changing the resolution of the input to match the display, not the framerate, which I agree should always output natively so it doesn't look like a flicker book.

I bought mine from crt and will probably do so again when the time comes . One reason for the price premium is that Henry's Oppos are DVD and BD Region Free whereas off-the-shelf units are locked to their own ( usually R1 - R-A )

He also offers excellent ( non-M-like) customer service ; I've often had replies to e-mails within 30 minutes !

~M~

Well i do not mind that 1080i blu rays are changed to 1080p for viewing..

I will never forget the HD-DVD players which prefered 1080p60 output over native 1080p23,976 if the display offers 1080p60 input. No native output if something else is offered via EDID handshake (or whatever it is called)
Lucky i have a Radiance scaler to offer a device a custom EDID table to force it to the correct framerate.

Everything you send to a digital display will be scaled, either in the player or in the display itself.

All panels/DLPs/LCDs/DiLAs etc. will also be progressive, so they may deinterlace as well.

Most displays deinterlace and scale average at best, hence why people like to use a decent off board scaler, use one and stick your display in native mode (ie overscan off, 1:1 pixel map or whatever your manufacturer calls it) and bypass the displays processing and you can get truly stunning results.

Decent SD can look HD and well processed HD can look incredible.

This is the reason everyon raves about the Oppo, its scaling and deinterlacing are fantastic, as good as �3000 video processors for �500.
Just make sure your display is in native res mode so all its poor processing is bypassed.

I never saw my Oppo play so i cannot comment on the scaling. But i will only playback Blu Rays and most of them are 1080p23,976 anyway.

I agree that the display should not do too much. Only make sure the colors are coming are displayed correctly (which no display seems to do coming from the factory)

Is the chip in the new Oppo not the same one Meridian is using ?

I agree guys- thats why Im asking about what is the real advantage to the new Dune- if its not a better UI then what is it because the unit right now is terrific- and I output native to my radiance XE which does what it needs to do.

Like the dual HDMI output on the new Oppo. I assume one or both with be 1.4 spec?

Cliff

If the new Oppo player supports 3D Bluray then it will have to be HDMI 1.4 spec .
HDMI 1.3 only has enough bandwidth for 2 x 1080i video feeds, so in theory can support 3D, but only at 1080i, not 1080P.
For TV, most cable boxes are 1080i, so it would output 2 x 540i. So for TV, u can have HD or 3D , not both, with HDMI 1.3 .
see: http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s.../HDMI_1.3_Will_Support_3D_After_All/4002,

A few things...

1. The Oppo BDP-93 supports blu-ray and has dual outputs...see http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/transports/high-definition-DVD-players-hd-DVD-blu-ray/oppo-bdp-93


2. The HDI Dune Pro [or the its successor, is there one] confuses me as I do not know what it would offer me over and above the Oppo BDP-93; that is:

a) The BDP-93 providers me with a universal spinner (i.e. Blu-ray, CD, DVD, DVD-A, SACD, etc.).

b) The BDP-93 provides me with Netflic Streaming.

c) The BDP-93's scaling capabilities I could care less about as I have both a Lumagen RadianceXE and a Runc DHD 4.

d) The SONOS music system with NAS provides audio throughout my entire house.

e) While I might not be the norma -- at least around here -- I do not find myself needing a method / source to connect a HD or other network device to(i.e. PC, NAS, etc.) to view material in my home theatre...granted, were I desirous of this the Dune would be worth considering..

With the above noted can someone please tell me what I am missing becuase, assuming I am missing nothing, the possible benefit is as noted in e) above...


3. What is the HDI Dune Pro's interface like...is it easy to navigate...is it fast...is it slick looking...etc.

TIA...