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I just played with Trifield width on my old 565z3v6.0 The range of widths is 0 to 1.0, not 1.5 Did this expand at some point?
I also rechecked the effectiveness using two different sources via a 562V1. On BBC R4 on a speech programme I could hear no difference yet on BBC R3 with music it was very obvious - source was a SkyHD box outputting PCM over SPDIF.
Similarly ZDF HD on speech made no apparent difference yet Arte HD with music was again very noticeable - source was a Topfield satellite receiver outputting PCM and DD2.0 (I checked both) over optical.
Clearly the selection of content is important when testing subjectively.
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Yeah of course, if it is mono then it will stay in the middle no matter what.
Same as if I play something mono using the stereo preset it sounds like it is coming from the centre channel.
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Mono for me gives me a "Wall of sound" across the front three speakers when using Trifield. I listen to BBC radio 7 alot and that is a Mono broadcast on DAB. Comedy and drama. Anyway, it sounds great. Width, I just leave it set to Max. Cheers Chris 
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Hi Chris, I just leave it set to max ...that's why you hear it across all 3 at the front. Setting width to max will do that. Setting it to zero will collapse it to the front centre. All this is based on what I recall Bob explaining at HH2. All this also because width works on your 565.
Rgds,
Nick
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I am lucky with that, and I appreciate the frustrations of a fauly width setting. It should work, Period!! Is the not working width stuck at wide or Narrow or in between? I have never thought to set it as anything other as wide in my ageing system, but I understand there are plenty of reasons why sombody may want to control it for their personal set ups. Cheers Chris
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It is stuck in narrow! 
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Thats not good, ouch!! Chris
No 18 in the Hall of fame I have simple tastes; I am content to settle for the best: GIK monster bass panels, rear wall. QNAP TVS 471i3. Roon into DSP5200SE via 210/ 218 zone... Explorer 2. Bluesound Pulse 2, Mini & Flex. 596v1, 518, Foxsat HD, Sony BDP, Pioneer 5090, 2 Chromecast's for LRB videos. MS200 to F80 for a Roon zone
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I think it's stuck somewhere in between. Otherwise I don't think it would have slipped by for so long. It's at a reasonable default value, but it sure would be nice to tweak it like a 565/568.1/561.
- Fiddler (IMHO)
If you think listening to music is fun, try learning an instrument.
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gizzE - yes I would agree that a mono source would behave as you suggest but this was "Broadcasting House" which was very left and right stereo positioning the presenter and interviewee - I did actually check this with the Direct preset.
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Anybody remember if width adjustment worked with pre 2.5 beta on the 568.2?
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It works fine on my 2.12 568.2MM
568.2mm, G61, D5k96/24, D5kC96/24, M60.2
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Interesting! So the newer way the firmware handles presets on the G series and 2:5 beta broke the width setting.
If I didn't have to use bass management I would go back to 2.12.
Ron
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