OK- good news

Width works. This was operator error. I didn't realize I had to press function along with the arrow button to change the values. I thought pressing the arrows was enough. I was checking the LFE on DVDA playback and I was pressing the down arrow and nothing was happening- so I checked the front face of the 861- again in another room- and the value was static- and then I pointed the remote at the 861 and nothing and then I realized I should try pressing the function button and then the values changed. I now have my width at 0.9. FWIW I have my discrete LFE at -5. At -10 it seemed to take too much punch out of the music and at 0 it was a little too much.
Whats amazing is with V3 and 4 the difference from CD to DVDA was huge- both in terms of smoothness and dynamic range. Now I can still hear a difference with DVDAs vs CDs but the gap is closed drastically. CD playback is real real close. And thats without the benefit of Meridians excellent spinners- Im just using my K Player 5000's coax digital output. Pink Floyd on this is really something else. The sound has a warmth that you will now think I am nuts but it recalls when I was a child and I had a phonograph as a source on a much less elaborate setup. But thats the sense- the sound is accurate but warm and has great imaging but still has focus. I can't say enough about this.