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Ncpl is your man for an assessment of the PPP...
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Thank you George. I'll try sending a PM to Ncpl.
Jim
Meridian: 861v4 + ID40, HD621, Ultra DAC, 857, 558.2
Speakers: B&W 802D, B&W HTM2D, 2-15" custom subwoofers, B&W LM1
Other: Oppo BDP-83, Mac Mini Roon Core.
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What do you want to know?
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I`m interested to see if anyone has experienced a significant improvement when listening to music using the PPP before making the investment. I have read that the music became more subtly detailed, the soundstage wider and deeper, the overall sound more natural. I`ve been told the transparent powerbank 8 really is not an effective true power conditioner and that it`s just a place to plug in equipment.
Thanks,
Jim
Meridian: 861v4 + ID40, HD621, Ultra DAC, 857, 558.2
Speakers: B&W 802D, B&W HTM2D, 2-15" custom subwoofers, B&W LM1
Other: Oppo BDP-83, Mac Mini Roon Core.
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As with most products, the people that have the PPP like it, those that have the Transparent Powerbank like it, and those that have other solutions like them. They are not too impressed by power conditions others own. It's very tough to find consensus on these things. If possible, to avoid disappointment, it's best to audition a new component in your own system and judge for yourself. I think PS Audio allows you to return the PPP if you are not satisfied; your local dealer ought to extend you the same courtesy.
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Frank,
Thank you for the meaningful feedback.
Jim
Meridian: 861v4 + ID40, HD621, Ultra DAC, 857, 558.2
Speakers: B&W 802D, B&W HTM2D, 2-15" custom subwoofers, B&W LM1
Other: Oppo BDP-83, Mac Mini Roon Core.
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I have owned a PPP for a few years and am generally happy with it. I have to say that I did not notice any sound improvements versus my prior unit (a Tice powerblock) but it does add some nice switching capabilities and was, and is, quite reasonably priced.
The only time I have heard a dramatic improvement was with the use of an Isotek titan on the power amp that runs my mains speakers. That amp always was a bit noisy, and adding the titan quieted things down considerably.
My Kit: 861v8+ID41, 800v4, UHD722, MD600, MS600, MS200, Oppo BDP-203, Genesis 201, Genesis 350 SE, Genesis S4-8 Sub, BG 520i, VTL MB450 II, Krell Showcase 7, Genesis 928 Subs, Danley DTS10 sub, SVS Ultra 16 subs.
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- Fiddler (IMHO)
If you think listening to music is fun, try learning an instrument.
HT: G61RSL, 4x5K, 5.5KHC, 2xSC6000, Transporter, HD621, Philips BDP7501 4K, Tivo, 65" LG OLED 4K C6
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I`m interested to see if anyone has experienced a significant improvement when listening to music using the PPP before making the investment. I have read that the music became more subtly detailed, the soundstage wider and deeper, the overall sound more natural. I`ve been told the transparent powerbank 8 really is not an effective true power conditioner and that it`s just a place to plug in equipment. I've had the PPP in my system now for about two years and am generally pretty happy with it. Sound quality improvements are quite elusive verus my prior conditioner, a Tice Powerblock, however. Have not tried it versus no conditioner, but I'd expect that improvements wrought would depend quite alot on the quality of your mains.
My Kit: 861v8+ID41, 800v4, UHD722, MD600, MS600, MS200, Oppo BDP-203, Genesis 201, Genesis 350 SE, Genesis S4-8 Sub, BG 520i, VTL MB450 II, Krell Showcase 7, Genesis 928 Subs, Danley DTS10 sub, SVS Ultra 16 subs.
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Simon,
Thank you for the information as it is helpful.
Jim
Meridian: 861v4 + ID40, HD621, Ultra DAC, 857, 558.2
Speakers: B&W 802D, B&W HTM2D, 2-15" custom subwoofers, B&W LM1
Other: Oppo BDP-83, Mac Mini Roon Core.
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