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But there's also the intangible cost of enjoyment of ownership / listening pleasure to be factored in. In other words, if you wait another year and find some for £1k less, have you won out or lost out? Only you can answer that but if I wanted some & they were closest to what I was looking for / hoping to pay, I'd rather pay a little more & get an extra year's pleasure from them. Life's too short as they say... I tend to think the life is too short to overpay by £4000. There is much enjoyment to be had from that £4000…. I suppose it depends if you are a saver or a spender. I'm definitely a spender which is why I allow my better half to make all financial decisions! But I only mentioned £1k, not £4k.
Cinema: Meridian 271, 3 x DSP640 (behind screen), 4 x DSP320 (in-ceiling), 4 x DSP3100 (surrounds), 2 x AC12 (interface). 2 x Perlisten D12s subs, Lyngdorf MP40 processor. DT 145" 2.35 AT screen. Sony VW870 projector & S-T lens, Lumagen Radiance Pro. Lounge: Roon, NUC, Kef LS50 Wireless + 2 x REL Gibraltar-2 subs
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I’m amused by others’ propensity on here to spend my money for me.  I was correct to ‘tough it out’ to see if the price would drop on the DSP5200SE’s, as the seller chased after me within a few days with a further £500 price reduction. I’m confident that if I wait a little longer then they will accept a further £500 price reduction. BUT… In that very short time I wondered if these were indeed the right speakers to buy. I appreciate that many on here will not have heard the M6’s impressive performance prowess. These understated speakers really rock as a main pair. They deliver 150watts bass plus 100watts wide range (250 watts total). The bass output is reinforced by its downward facing bass driver (as the DSW.2). Ignoring the superior Beryllium tweeter on the DSP5200SE, they produce 225 watts total by comparison. Plus, I wrongly assumed that its speaker configuration comprised separate bass, midrange and high range, rather than the reality of only 2 x bass and 1 x high range at 3 x 75 watts. Again, ignoring the superior Beryllium tweeter performance, I’m having reservations on whether they would substantively outperform my M6’s in practise and that I would subsequently regret my purchase. That 225 watts output is clearly dwarfed by the DSP7200SE’s 600 watts output via their separate bass, midrange and high range (unlike the DSP5200SE’s) at 4 x 150 watts. By comparison, although the DSP7200SE’s are 7” taller, they’re only 2” wider and a smidgen over 2.5” deeper than DSP5200SE’s. Curses on those that have rented space in my head by their suggestion of looking at DSP7200SE’s.  Maybe that should be the future focus of my interest - or does the DSP5200SE remain the better match for my 5 x 4 metre lounge?
Not an Actor, nor married to Jamie-Lee Curtis.
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If you value "scale" don't forget the DSP5500/2 , a positive bargain in the 2nd user market.
Rgds Stuart
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I moved from the 5200SL to the 7200SE. The upgrade wasn’t about power. And my sitting room isn’t large. But the increase in scale, image depth and so on is what persuaded me. As an orchestra plays I’m just more heavily involved with the music. And that’s the only thing that counts, I think. I’ve not heard the M6.
ROON Rock on an NUC across the systems Sitting room: 218, DSP7200SE Study: 218, Quad 303, Spendor BC1 Bedroom: Musical Fidelity A3CR, Chartwell LS3/5a Various Sonos boxes in bathroom and spare rooms
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A pair of the elusive DSP7k's at 400 watts per speaker may be perfect, especially given the astonishingly precise 3D imaging of sound. However, I am biased!
DSP8000uSE, DSP5200HC, DSP33, DSW1500, 808v5, 861v4, WiiM Pro+, Panasonic 55" Plasma, DMP-BDT700 Blu-ray, MECOOL MEon1, Russ Andrews Signature Power Block, UltraFuses, SuperFuses, Kimber Signature PS Interfaces. Prior: DSP7000.2, DSP6000.2, DSP5000.2, DSP5000.2HC, 508.24, 568.2, 596, G98DH & G68D. Jaguar F-Type; Meridian 770W Surround System
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Hi,
Just read your speaker upgrade consideration.
My room is about 2 metres longer than yours and concrete floor. l used to run 5200SE’s with 2 DSW.
An opportunity came along to upgrade to the 7200SE and l did parting with the 5200’s and DSW’s. No doubt the best upgrade l have ever done from M3, M2, 5000, 5500, 5200 & 5200SEs.
The sheer weight of sound and control is amazing. l have since added the 7200SE centre and although many benefits especially films and speech centre image the main speakers are the thing to go for, they are truly amazing and there are some out there and very considerate pricing.
Best relham
#1 DSP9,7200HCSE Upgrade,G65, DSP3200, HD621, Oppo 105D Audiocom Signature BDP, Sky Q, etc. #2 Prime Headphone and Power Supply, Sennheiser 800. #3 F80 Director, Panasonic TXP60ZT65, 210, Zen Mk111, Chord 8 Switch, Roon, Tidal, Explorer2, Apple iPad Pro 2nd gen.Chord M6 mains block.
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What was it that first motivated you to upgrade from your DSP5200SE’s?
How long did you keep them? What did you initially like about them? When did your attitude towards them change? What did you eventually find lacking about them, that prompted the upgrade?
Not an Actor, nor married to Jamie-Lee Curtis.
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Finally an M6 owner ! Is it possible to turn off the light on top ?
There is no mention in the manual that I can see.
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Using your MSR press ‘Display’ to switch the lights on/off.
That is, if you have either an AC200 or a 218 with G12 connected.
Not an Actor, nor married to Jamie-Lee Curtis.
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Hi,
About 6 years …
l originally had the 52’s but hearing the beryllium tweeter was, at the time, one of the biggest improvements l had heard.
I spend a lot of my time listening to classical music at home nowadays and although you will never beat the shear size and power of a live concert (I have been attending live concerts for over 50 years) nowadays l prefer the comfort choice of home listening and without the distractions of other concert goers.
I had read and listened to the 72’s and they are really a big step up from the 52’s which is easily put down to size and power. l listen mostly to Mahler and Shostakovich and when it goes busy and loud the 72’s just stand there effortlessly.The different spec to the 52’s easily explains same. Also as my wife said l would rather spend my money on new speakers than a new car!
Best relham
#1 DSP9,7200HCSE Upgrade,G65, DSP3200, HD621, Oppo 105D Audiocom Signature BDP, Sky Q, etc. #2 Prime Headphone and Power Supply, Sennheiser 800. #3 F80 Director, Panasonic TXP60ZT65, 210, Zen Mk111, Chord 8 Switch, Roon, Tidal, Explorer2, Apple iPad Pro 2nd gen.Chord M6 mains block.
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One practical consideration I’m now looking at is comparable weight. I’m far from being a young man with the commensurate strength to move heavy loads on my own (given my MS). Sure, once they’re in situ they will be rarely moved - but occasional cleaning, decorating and removal considerations are a factor.
My M6’s weigh 21.5kg each. They’re more awkward than heavy to move around, with connectivity located beneath them rather than on their rear.
My DSW.2 is marginally heavier, at 22kg - yet, given its different proportions, I always find myself having to adequately prepare and brace myself prior to moving it.
The DSP5200SE’s, on paper, are not much heavier at 27kg - so I’m fairly confident on my current ability to move them around if and when necessary on my own.
Yet, the DSP7200SE’s weigh considerably more by comparison, at 55kg each - twice that of DSP5200SE’s and heading towards thrice that of my M6’s. I’m uncertain if I have the solo ability to move them - especially if I buy a used blemished pair that requires subsequent transporting for refurbishment.
Of those on here that own DSP7200SE’s, how do you manage to move them around on your own without the assistance of others (if at all)?
Not an Actor, nor married to Jamie-Lee Curtis.
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I have a sack truck, kept in the garage, with a little thought, it makes light work of shifting. May be £50 but I’ve used mine so much over the years. I bought it to move speakers.
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