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On my system I have 818v3 working well now straight into my DAP speakers but in this configuration I have some bass boom. Sound quality is up but it's just this one dam bass note that booms!!
If I connect the 818v3 straight into my G68 and enable room correction this is immediately fixed but with a big drop in sound quality compared to the direct route... So...
If I upgrade my speakers to SE SpeakerLink does the SL equalisation work well for speakers placed close to a rear wall and corner which I assume are settings designed to take care of the issue I am having right now?
So my question is does the SL equalisation work well and anyone have experience with it. If it does I can then use 818v3 to set this up.
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SL (SpeakerLink) vs SE (special edition)?
Equalisation - are you asking about boundary settings? If so it’s available on all (?) DSP speakers, legacy/SL/SE, via MSR/IR config.
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No, boundary settings is only available via SpeakerLink products as far as I am aware...
If it can be done on legacy how?? Or you refer to simple bass, treble, phase, axis, balance settings??
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No, boundary settings is only available via SpeakerLink products as far as I am aware... I was setting the boundary conditions on a pair of non-SL DSP5500s yesterday. It is, however, not dynamic like certain SL-controlled features. Switch the speaker on while holding down Store on the MSR. Then select a source. You may then use Function < or > to find the boundary options and Function /\ and \/ to select your preferred position. Then use Function Store to retain that preference. See page 38 of the DSP speaker manual
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Thanks for this. I tried it. It did not really help. But good to know it’s available, I thought only a SpeakerLink feature although I am sure SpeakerLink is more advanced.
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No, boundary settings is only available via SpeakerLink products as far as I am aware... Sounds like you may be thinking of EBA (enhanced bass alignment). That’s a later addition which iirc was still manually selectable (as well as SL controlled on certain controllers) including on legacy speakers that had the update retrospective applied. I would still try boundary first - it’s an option to tame artifices due to placement. EBA is more of an overall driver timing refinement and probably a bit more subtle.
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I found the Corner position controlled some excess bass perfectly on my 5200SEs
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I found that optimizing speaker placement is a very effective solution. Did you try moving your speakers including toe in?
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Ian, In your comment about EBA working in legacy speakers with the latest software update, can I take it you mean legacy 5200s, 7000s, 7200s, and 8000s?
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Yes, I should have said legacy comms that had EBA firmware updates.
Not sure what OP has kit wise. EBA may not even be an option.
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I’m pretty sure 6Ks had an EBA upgrade, as well.
Cheers Greg
[EDIT] Apologies, looks like I was wrong. Haven't got them any more and my memory must be playing tricks. Pretty sure the 5.4 had a performance bump though
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I’m pretty sure 6Ks had an EBA upgrade, as well Unfortunately not... But, being a closed design, their bass group delay is actually pretty small compared with ported designs.
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