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Hitchhiker
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Originally Posted by ncpl
I can't be the only one that sat back and stared at a room full of DSP's and decided to go back to 2 channel. No regrets.
I'm kinda considering it I must admit. I'm currently running a non-M 5.1 system and going to simple stereo and taking a digital feed from the TV is one option I'm considering...

Then again, I've got wall-mounted monitor audio rears in white which don't exactly intrude and I do like films...


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Originally Posted by ncpl
I can't be the only one that sat back and stared at a room full of DSP's and decided to go back to 2 channel. No regrets
+1

I sold an 861v8, HD621, DSP7200's, DSP7200HC, 2 pairs of DSP3200's all from a surround system setup which I too have not missed, I then purchased an 818v3 and DSP8000 SE upgrades.

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+2

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Originally Posted by Hector
Ah! The simple convenience of adding a mass market sound bar.
I think the convenience of having Netflix/Amazon/iPlayer etc and the inconvenience of not being able to walk into a local video rental shop (Blockbuster) and rent a film also comes into play. If you want to watch a blu-ray film at your convenience you may have to buy it.

Saying all of that, I am hoping to build a new room and I will run cables/conduit for ceiling speakers.

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I could not go back to 2-channel. It's good but it is not Trifield or 7.1 for movies..

I would also add, if Meridian did release an Atmos capable 861/HD621 combination we would not have this discussion but just ordering it, done!


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Originally Posted by Crion
I could not go back to 2-channel.
+1. Two channel is SO last century wink


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May I ask, why you guys have taken the decision to move away from multichannel. Is it down to media aspect as another poster mentioned, I kind of get that. After all who wants to re-watch the same movies over and over. Or is it down to form/set up/convenience etc. and SWMBO considerations?

I can imagine general tv viewing is a pain with a multichannel setup given the very different and at times bizarre differences in broadcast standards.

As I have not yet stepped into that world, but would have done by now if not for living space limitations I'm keen to know if I am about to fall down a black hole.

Lee


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Originally Posted by ChrisLayerUK
I just don't see how most normal houses (3/4 bed estate) will accommodate
Atmos and as such mass appeal will be difficult.

I read people struggling to run Cat 5 cables on forums all the time so ceiling speakers et all is a non starter for all but the well healed and or committed enthusiast.

It's a niche market but probably a valuable one just now but wether it's worth Meridian leading the way here is unclear. How much software is out there anyway?

We shall see...

From Dolby Atmos FAQ Page.

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Do I have to install speakers in my ceiling?

In real life, sounds come from all around us, including overhead. Having the ability to recreate overhead sounds is a key element in making Dolby Atmos sound so realistic.

The obvious way to create overhead sounds is to install speakers in or on your ceiling. But that’s not the only way to get great overhead sound.

Through our knowledge of psychoacoustics and sound physics, we’ve developed speakers that can create overhead sound even though they’re only a few feet off the floor. These speakers fire sound upward, where it reflects off the ceiling to produce an incredibly lifelike recreation of overhead sound—you really have to hear them to believe them.

You will be able to buy integrated Dolby Atmos enabled speakers that include both traditional forward-firing speakers and upward-firing speakers in one speaker cabinet. (Those speakers have two sets of posts, one for the traditional speaker and one for the upward-firing speaker.)

But if you already have conventional speakers you like, you can simply buy Dolby Atmos enabled speaker modules. These include only the upward-firing speakers. You can put the modules on top of your current speakers or on another nearby surface

Like these.

Definitive Technology Atmos modules



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I feel Meridian is in a transition period right now. I think they are pushing MQA to bring in more revenue because as many have posted we are a dying breed and not many of us are left to spend $$$ on new gear.

I also feel from what I have been seeing M release are new amplifiers and analog gear they are up to something but I feel they are trying to get the "infrastructure" in place sort of speak to finally release what is coming down the pipe.

It kind of reminds me of Apple. They were going to release the iPad first but shelved the idea and released the iPhone. Once the infrastructure was in place and the App Store was fully functional and enough apps were there they released the iPad.


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You will be able to buy integrated Dolby Atmos enabled speakers that include both traditional forward-firing speakers and upward-firing speakers in one speaker cabinet.
Linn will have to bring these back...

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Originally Posted by LeeRankin
May I ask, why you guys have taken the decision to move away from multichannel.
I still have a multichannel setup but what the top end of Meridian two channel equipment (818, 7200s, 8000s) can do in terms of sound quality makes Trifield redundant (IMHO, YMMV) and it is more than capable of providing a dynamic film experience which envelops rather than presents.

The lack of complication, and simplicity of installation and operation is very compelling. And you can focus the investment in SQ on the two main speakers rather than spreading it over multiple channels.

Try switching to Direct and PCM for an evening wile watching your normal A/V diet and see what you think.


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I think you're right about the simplicity. There is an elegance to just two beautiful speakers sitting there. I still like my multichannel theater, but I think we have seen in general, brands have gone really high end or low end. The middle, like so much in our world, has been left behind.


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Jerry
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