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Non for DSP users. This is for analog systems as I understand things.


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Right, but I'm wondering if any of the new features could be beneficial to an 818.

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As far as this unit concerned none, it's a DAC designed to drive a power amp.

That said, if we look at the technology I think it is likely that the SE DSP speakers already encompass some of this technology already but this is new ...
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The Ultra DAC is the first product in the world to include MQA Limited’s Hierarchical Converter Technology, which employs multiple converters to increase temporal resolution while reducing noise and quantization errors.
Maybe this can be incorporated into DSP at some point in time ... maybe it's already in the SE speakers.

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The DAC tech is updated (2 steps forward) but the input ethernet tech is still 24/96? (One step back?)


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Looks like it, Meridian really needs to let go of this serious limitation with their Sooloos streaming ... it's long over due.

Personally I wish they would adopt the RAAT protocol which is more robust and also supports proper multi room synchronisation.


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Maybe at the same time they can update the config program to be HTML5 based and accessible via IP.

As an analog user, and without hearing the DAC, it seems to me the real selling point here is a ultra high end DAC that supports MQA? So what does this have that the Brinkmann Nyquist DAC doesn't have? A shootout is certainly needed here... I wonder if there is a deluge of high end MQA DAC's about to hit the market?


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What's next passive speakers? Full circle!

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I wouldn't be surprised.

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I know you are being sarcastic, but M has the hard part of speaker building down. That being cabinet design and building. M doesn't build its own drivers, so getting into analog speakers isn't all that of a stretch.

I would imagine the owners of M continue to look for ways to expand their business and focusing on DSP speakers limits the market considerably.


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Pffff, why such a beast?

Why not introduce a much smaller, much sleeker, much more affordable DAC/Pre-Amplifier that can run Roon & MQA. That's what I want.


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I think it's a shame that M can't supply an external DAC bi-pass solution so that it's legacy speakers can be enabled for MQA.


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Not sure what you mean here - but it wouldn't be a DAC.

Any legacy speaker capable of handling MHR should be able to benefit from some MQA decoding (probably unfolded to 24/96, the limit of the DAC in the speaker) once the MS200/ MS600 replacements are introduced (and, one presumes, once the DSP firmware is updated at the same time). Encryption of the undecoded stream is critical to the implementation of MQA - this is a requirement of MQA Ltd and applies to all manufacturers.

(I am aware that some feel that legacy DSPs are already unfolding and playing decoded MQA when fed from an 818v3 - I don't think this is the case, it being more likely, in my view, that legacy DSPs simply receive the upsampled undecoded MQA signal).



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