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+3. The refusal to explain what the unit does and how it works, together with the lacklustre marketing effort to promote what is one of the best DACs in the world at the moment is astonishing.
Streaming: Roon, NUC, QNAP869 NAS
2ch system: dCS Vivaldi, Audionet Stern, Audionet Heisenberg, Magico Q1
Retro system: 101/104/105, Red Rose Spirit
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+4, completely crazy, especially given the time they've had since the announcement, and the fact upgrade kits are out.
HC: 861v4/ID40/LPS, DSP5000, DSP5000VC, DSP3100, SW1600, HD621, Oppo BDP-105, Sony VPL-HW55ES
2-Channel: Oppo BDP-105, TEAC VRDS-7/Trichord Clock 3/PSU, 551, Quad 303, Harbeth Compact 7ES-3, Kimber cables, Russ Andrews mains and supports.
Previous Meridian: 5000C, 5200SL, 7200.2, 6000, 562V.2, 568.2mm, 800v4, 808.2i, 818v2/v3, 861v8, 502
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President of the Imperial Galactic Government
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The datasheet speaks about rendering for analogue ... Where did you find the datasheet? I see two different old ones on the M site but nothing new. Thanks JimK Available from the 818v3 support page dated October 27, 2015. Regards, Carl
861v6+ID40, HD621, 8000.2, 7200HC, 7200.2, SKYQ Silver, PS3, PDP-LX6090, QNAP TS870-Pro (8*6TB), Roon, iPadAir2.
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After reading that it looks like for those of us with DSPs the only upgrade is the MQA decoder.
Ken
Main: G68J, 5K2s, 5Ks, HSU subs, Pio 151FD, Dish VP722, Roku, Wadia I70, Anti Mode Dual Core, Oppo 103D Vanity Lite
Office: SBT, Berkeley Alpha DAC 2/MQA, Magico S3 Mk II, Boulder 2060, Lumin U1 Mini streamer, Roon.
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Senior Shouting Officer
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Where is the promised DXD decode/playback?
DSP8000SE, DSP7200SEHC, DSP5200SE sides, DSP7200SE rears, 861v8, 210, Sim2 Ultranero 4, Stewart Cinecurve 2.35:1, XEIT CM-5E Anamorphic lens, Dune HD Duo Cinema 8K and Wireworld Platinum 48G HDMI -> UHD722 -> Shunyata Omega Ethernet. Shunyata/Furutech power-cables/filters. SR Master Fuse@861v8. Uptone Etherregen with 10MHz OCXO clock.
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President of the Imperial Galactic Government
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Where is the promised DXD decode/playback? That's a forthcoming Sooloos feature, not an 818v3 feature.
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Server: Roon/ROCK/NUC
Headphones: Stax SR-X9000, Stax SR-007, Stax SR-404LE, Audeze LCD-X...
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Hope this helpes  808v5 to 808v6 Upgrade Kit- IE58 Card (Notes 1, 2, 3) - 0A25 Card (Note 4) - 808v6 Back Panel 808v3 to 808v6 Upgrade Kit- IE58 Card (Notes 1, 2, 3) - 0A25 Card (Note 4) - 808v6 Back Panel - OE38 Card - ID41 Card - PSU Upgrade Kit 818v2 to 818v3 Upgrade Kit- IE58 Card (Notes 1, 2, 3) - 0A25 Card (Note 4) - 818v3 Back Panel 818v1 to 818v3 Upgrade Kit- IE58 Card (Notes 1, 2, 3) - 0A25 Card (Note 4) - 818v3 Back Panel - OE38 Card Notes1. New built-in MQA decoder fully supports Master Quality Authentication (MQA) encoded music playback, guaranteeing a studio master quality experience. 2. New SPDIF receiver enables USB and RCA inputs to receive up to 192kHz digital audio. 3. New DSP chip offers lip-sync control, DSD playback via DSD-over-PCM (DoP) and MQA rendering capability for analogue outputs. The analogue outputs also feature Bass, Treble and Balance. 4. New analogue output card features an upgraded circuit with filtering that broadens the bandwidth, and maximises the potential of high resolution music. PerS
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Don't Panic!
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Where is the promised DXD decode/playback? It was never promised for the 818v3 (directly). The roadmap is to implement DXD and 8x sample-rate support in Sooloos; this must mean MQA-encapsulation in the Sooloos core - in a future release.
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Paranoid android
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Paranoid android
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Ok, the impressions in the other thread seem to point to a SQ improvement, that is positive and good news that M pushes the limits for Redbook SQ even further. Tempting.
For future MQA file enjoyment, i guess one has to upgrade DSP's to SE otherwise no MQA SQ in da house?
Living room: Ansuz Mainz8 C2, Uptone Ethernet Regen, Grimm MU1, Audionote (UK) DAC 5 Special, TT2, Io1,S4, M2RIAA, Audionote (UK) OTO Line SE Silver Signature (35th Anniversary), Fleetwood Deville SQ
sold (Q1-2024): 818v3, DSP7200SE
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Paranoid android
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Upgraditis is a such terrible itch. Upgrade to v3 or not, that is the question. In the Amy Duncan post BobS wrote: Because MQA has a hierarchical architecture, the decoders extract the best sound matched to the platform you happen to be using. So, e.g. a file sourced from DXD can be unwrapped to 44.1, 88.2, 176.4 or 352.8 to match the device (important in legacy, WiFi and mobile applications). What does that mean if you have an 818v3 and non SE DSP's. Is the v3 the mentioned decoder and the platform the legacy DSP (in my case 7200.2), which would mean that I can enjoy (limited) MQA? Or is this too hopefull yet and we are supposed to wait untill M releases information. Any thoughts? Cheers!
Living room: Ansuz Mainz8 C2, Uptone Ethernet Regen, Grimm MU1, Audionote (UK) DAC 5 Special, TT2, Io1,S4, M2RIAA, Audionote (UK) OTO Line SE Silver Signature (35th Anniversary), Fleetwood Deville SQ
sold (Q1-2024): 818v3, DSP7200SE
Office: MS200, audio engine A2+
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I'm pretty certain that I'm getting at least 96/24 from my 818v3 to my 6ks via the coax SPDIF. That's from a layman's technical appraisal of the 818v3 architecture (the MQA decoder and the digital input card are one in the same, and the 818v3 outputs amazing analogue to my Stax at the same time). I would expect that, over SpeakerLink where the 7200.2's can let the 818v3 know their capabilities, you may do better...
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VK - maybe I missed a thread, as I haven't had a chance to get on the forum much lately, but what are your impressions of the gains from 818v2 to v3 through 6Ks? I'm interested as that's the setup I'm running with v2 at present, mainly with red book and a few hi res in the absence of MQA material?
HC: 861v4/ID40/LPS, DSP5000, DSP5000VC, DSP3100, SW1600, HD621, Oppo BDP-105, Sony VPL-HW55ES
2-Channel: Oppo BDP-105, TEAC VRDS-7/Trichord Clock 3/PSU, 551, Quad 303, Harbeth Compact 7ES-3, Kimber cables, Russ Andrews mains and supports.
Previous Meridian: 5000C, 5200SL, 7200.2, 6000, 562V.2, 568.2mm, 800v4, 808.2i, 818v2/v3, 861v8, 502
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