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Digital cameras have always had OLED screens so not really that new or unique to any manufacturer.

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All that I'm saying is that it's worth keeping in mind a manufacturer who currently has a 98% market share of OLED Displays sold on the market......and who therefore can achieve yields, economies of scale, performance and R&D expenditures that might be difficult for some others to compete with going forward

However LG's method of WOLED manufacture does offer some yield and scalability at the moment, when it comes to larger "TV" scale displays.......which is why they are selling OLED displays of 55", 65" and 85" I believe

As in all things, keeping your options open and evaluating which suits your eyes better will be the way to go


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LG are the only ones investing heavily in large size OLED panels currently.

They are the only ones with high enough yields to make producing TVs cost effective, or at least a non money loosing adventure.

This year LG are going to start selling their OLED panels to other manufacturers, so we will start to see OLED displays from many others and at a much better price point.

Samsung are struggling to make large panels, and many others have given up trying.

Most people are not interested in ultimate picture quality, as long as it looks funky and they can log into Faceache they are satisfied. So why invest millions and millions on a manufacturing plant to make a set that only 2% of buyers will want anyway?

I'm sure in 5 years time 50% of screens will be OLED, but they will also be �500.


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Hi Greg,

I can recommend the LG OLED. I have recently swapped my Pioneer LX5090 for an LG 55EC930V & am very pleased with it.

It is definately a step up from the Pioneer (especially in black level and overall brigntness).

My only gripes are the curve (I would have preferred flat but it's less pronounced than the Samsung curve) & the motion handling is perhaps not as good as plasma.

If you read about these TV's you will find reports of tinting on full white fields to various degrees. Mine has a very slight red/pink tint on the far left side that is only visible on full white screens & does not show in normal viewing.

I have had a play with the smart functionality (I don't use it as all my video goes via my Lumagen video processor) & it seems pretty good (if a little slow).

I was tempted to wait for the 4K 55in flat model due later this year but with a price drop at a local retailer, and the fact that at my viewing distance i'm not sure of the benefits of 4K, I bought this one.

It would definaely be worth a look if your in the market for a 55in TV (as suggested earlier preferrably in a suitably lit demo environment).

Cheers,

Justin


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Originally Posted by Fash
I was tempted to wait for the 4K 55in flat model due later this year

So, this is what Im going to hold out for. Not necessarily buy, but at least have a look at before buying any thing else.

My Plasma is pre Kuro, so I dont have that level of reference to match.

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I feel quite inadequate with all this chat of swapping TVs etc. I still make do with my "old" Pioneer PDP-5000EX.

How many generations have I missed?


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Is that the black and White one?

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Originally Posted by dpstjp
I feel quite inadequate with all this chat of swapping TVs etc. I still make do with my "old" Pioneer PDP-5000EX.

How many generations have I missed?

Well you missed the big one. wink

The 5000EX was a very clean image, but black levels were not great at all. I only kept mine a few weeks.

I think you will be blown away at the next upgrade.


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Greg,

You did not provide a price range but stated you were looking at a max 55". As they say size matters. And the bigger it gets the quality must go up also. At 55" and normal viewing distance I'm not convinced you need 4k or OLED (Oh Led). I go to CES every January (12 consecutive years now). Of course I spend a lot of time in the television arena. Fifteen years ago Panasonic and Sony showed the most innovation. Ten years ago Samsung and Panasonic looked best. Today IMO LG and Samsung were at the forefront. This year LG had a 98" 8k OLED on demo. You were invited to step up close and then they handed you a magnifying glass. The demo was jaw dropping. LG also had a darkened demo room where they had regular 4k next to OLED 4K. The blacks on the OLED were pure black. The OLED colors are brilliant. Unless you are going very large I'm not a fan of curved. By the way Sharp has a 120 inch UHD coming out in a little more than a year. Maybe just a few years out before my projector is replaced with a very large TV.

As for quality, I have a friend with an install business and he has stopped pushing Samsung because he is getting too many power supply failures. He now recommends LG.

Gary


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We recently replaced a 6 year old Samsung LCD with a 48" UHD Samsung (UE48HU7500). Part of the decision process was the flexibility it offered for our viewing needs. Amongst the plethora of "apps" is a Plex client, this means that with a Plex server running on the NAS we can watch the TV shows and films we have stored there. The native codec support in the TV means that there is no transcoding required for the formats we use (H.264 mainly). The TV also has DD and DTS passthrough from the optical output, so a straight connection to the processor.

With regard to normal TV functions, then I would say the sound through the TV speakers is pretty poor - it takes some tweaks in the inbuilt equaliser to get acceptable dialog. Picture quality is excellent in our opinion but you do need to adjust the "default" settings to get there.

Hope that is of some help.


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